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2019-09-14 18:13:14 UTC

the only islamic majority nation i have some respect for is the UAE and thats it

2019-09-14 18:13:32 UTC

Yang seems like at least somwhat rational guy. He's got no chance tho

2019-09-14 18:14:00 UTC

my main problem with Yang is the UBI system he wants put in or the social credits system

2019-09-14 18:14:01 UTC

I'm think more of the Kennedy or Roosevelt kind of coup d'รฉtat where they put a popular old man only to have him die half term and let the country in the hands of a puppet.

2019-09-14 18:14:05 UTC

Tulsy would be a catastrophe, if she's not lying

2019-09-14 18:14:10 UTC

It has happened before.

2019-09-14 18:14:44 UTC

Her "lets pull all troops, fuck the millitary advisors" is dangerous

2019-09-14 18:15:02 UTC

I'm sure these guys are plotting a new catastrophe somewhere

2019-09-14 18:15:08 UTC

in a dark dungeon

2019-09-14 18:15:26 UTC

while raping children in satanical masses

2019-09-14 18:15:31 UTC

like in the movies.

2019-09-14 18:16:01 UTC

And they will do anything to have Trump removed and place a puppet instead.

2019-09-14 18:19:49 UTC

@leavethisbotnet she isnt full isolationist

2019-09-14 18:21:12 UTC

She sounds like Obama before being elected.

2019-09-14 18:21:18 UTC

in that respect

2019-09-14 18:22:40 UTC

See: Crimea, eastern Ukraine, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Libya

2019-09-14 18:23:44 UTC

at least half of those caused by him ignoring warning of his military advisors

2019-09-14 18:25:10 UTC

I love how everyone blames isis on obama

2019-09-14 18:25:16 UTC

Why does no one blame bush

2019-09-14 18:25:42 UTC

Many people do. But he was at least sensible enough not to pull out too soon.

2019-09-14 18:26:24 UTC

Isis got their power in syria

2019-09-14 18:26:27 UTC

Not in iraq

2019-09-14 18:26:59 UTC

Syria and northern Iraq

2019-09-14 18:27:03 UTC

Yea

2019-09-14 18:27:33 UTC

Also isis decimated iraq due to political and military reasons

2019-09-14 18:27:43 UTC

Sunnis didnt trust the shia govt

2019-09-14 18:27:54 UTC

And also iraq military sucked

2019-09-14 18:27:58 UTC

Granted, Obama also idiotically supported the so called "democratic" opposition, which didn't help

2019-09-14 18:28:30 UTC

And Tulsy hopefully wouldn't be _that_ dumb

2019-09-14 18:28:56 UTC

For yemen
Yeah us should have never supported saudi

2019-09-14 18:29:04 UTC

Libya that was dumb

2019-09-14 18:29:32 UTC

Sarkozy also gets some blame for Libya.

2019-09-14 18:29:46 UTC

Us supports saudi and now houthis are still able to strike far away oil installations

2019-09-14 18:30:43 UTC

Nah, he should've supported Saudis more and not be so weak on Iran.
Iran who helped heat up the conflict when Obama decided that there's no reason to oppose Iranian expansion.

2019-09-14 18:31:35 UTC

So yeah we are different in our views
Saudi does bomb children and stuff
Ik houthis also do atrocities but
Would like a ceasefire there

2019-09-14 18:33:25 UTC

This isn't about humanitarianism. This is geopolitics. Iran wants to increase influence in Yemen. And they upped their efforts because they thought that there wouldn't be much interference from the US

2019-09-14 18:33:31 UTC

when Obama was president

2019-09-14 18:33:52 UTC

i think the UAE see's were Yemen is going and actually pulled its forces out

2019-09-14 18:33:56 UTC

if someone else was president, who the Iranians wouldn't be so sure of, it could've been different.

2019-09-14 18:34:32 UTC

Even so yemen is still Saudis vietnam

2019-09-14 18:34:40 UTC

Dont know what us could have done

2019-09-14 18:35:02 UTC

Not pussy out at the last minute, like in Vietnam.

2019-09-14 18:35:32 UTC

Won't solve the fact that no one really liked south Vietnam's govt

2019-09-14 18:35:43 UTC

You guys completely ignore the elephant in the room.

2019-09-14 18:35:47 UTC

Why?

2019-09-14 18:35:54 UTC

The saudi supported govt is weak too

2019-09-14 18:36:01 UTC

Why is nobody talking bout RUSSIA?

2019-09-14 18:36:17 UTC

Without Russia Iran would have backed a long time ago.

2019-09-14 18:36:40 UTC

Without Russia Maduro was finished in Venezuela.

2019-09-14 18:37:00 UTC

backed whom? backed what?

2019-09-14 18:37:01 UTC

I would say more Cuba for Venezuela but yeah @yordanyordanov

2019-09-14 18:37:07 UTC

you're not making sense

2019-09-14 18:37:19 UTC

Without Russia the DPRK would be in the mercy of China.

2019-09-14 18:37:36 UTC

What I mean is that if you had any brains you would see the pattern.\

2019-09-14 18:37:56 UTC

DPKR being at the mercy of China is not a good thing.

2019-09-14 18:38:19 UTC

Iran wanted to expand for decades but they stayed quiet during the Clintons, Bush and rose not more than a decade ago.

2019-09-14 18:38:21 UTC

WHY?

2019-09-14 18:38:30 UTC

you can't negotiate with a Chinese pupet

2019-09-14 18:38:32 UTC

that's why

2019-09-14 18:38:37 UTC

Can't you see who is behind the curtain?

2019-09-14 18:38:45 UTC

if they have options other than China, they can be negotiated with more freely

2019-09-14 18:38:53 UTC

It's not China you idiots.

2019-09-14 18:39:19 UTC

There is something murky coming out of Kremlin nowadays.

2019-09-14 18:39:29 UTC

Any Russian can tell it to you.

2019-09-14 18:39:42 UTC

Problem is nobody yet knows exactly what it is.

2019-09-14 18:39:44 UTC

You sound like a DNC shill or a retarded FBI agent

2019-09-14 18:39:53 UTC

Good or bad, people still wonder.

2019-09-14 18:40:15 UTC

and I don't like Russia mind you

2019-09-14 18:40:28 UTC

No, I osund liek someone from the east who had enough KGB shit.

2019-09-14 18:41:08 UTC

And can tell you the KGB is plotting something and your Trump guy is backing up piece by piece.

2019-09-14 18:41:21 UTC

Isn't russia domestically struggling now

2019-09-14 18:41:30 UTC

Putins approval ratings are down

2019-09-14 18:41:35 UTC

Ah, so someone with incurable fixation on Russia.
Bring it when it's relevant, but you can spare us from your extensive rants

2019-09-14 18:41:46 UTC

Little by little every now and then the Ruskies are gaining ground on the world stage why you are too busy discussing gender pronouns.

2019-09-14 18:42:24 UTC

@leavethisbotnet Russia is still a superpower like it or not.

2019-09-14 18:42:40 UTC

But china will eclipse that superpower thingy soon

2019-09-14 18:42:49 UTC

And russia will just be a regional power

2019-09-14 18:42:49 UTC

If you have something to say about Russia in regards to Iran and Yemen, then say it.
But don't derail the discussion.

2019-09-14 18:42:50 UTC

And I fear you have too little knowledge of the insides of Kremlin.

2019-09-14 18:42:58 UTC

Or how do they do business.

2019-09-14 18:43:00 UTC

If you have something to say about Russia in regards to Iran and Yemen, then say it.
But don't derail the discussion.

2019-09-14 18:44:04 UTC

What I think has happened is that Putin is trying to destabilize the West and has given his proxies free reign to do whatever they wants anywhere they can hurt the US and its allies.

2019-09-14 18:44:22 UTC

And prime Russian proxy nowadays is Iran.

2019-09-14 18:44:30 UTC

What the fuck does that have to do with middle east?

2019-09-14 18:44:52 UTC

So the attack wasn't a coincidence, actually won't be surprised if the Ruskies helped the houties.

2019-09-14 18:45:25 UTC

It doesn't, it has to do with weakening a US allly.

2019-09-14 18:45:52 UTC

If Saudis have problems, Russia may come to the rescue soon enough.

2019-09-14 18:46:00 UTC

They go to us_politics instead of derailing a discussion.

2019-09-14 18:46:11 UTC

If they come, they can put most of teh world oil market under their control.

2019-09-14 18:46:28 UTC

Oil prices go up = good for putin and good for russia

2019-09-14 18:46:36 UTC

If they do that they will try hyperinflate the dollar.

2019-09-14 18:46:52 UTC

It's been a dream of theirs for decades.

2019-09-14 18:47:38 UTC

Nah. Only like half.

2019-09-14 18:47:44 UTC

If you knew Russian you would know the wet dreams of all Russian generals are seeing the dollar being dumped as the world currency and US spiraling down into a hyperinflation.

2019-09-14 18:48:17 UTC

Then, the yankees will have what they had during the 90s and they become number one after they put China under their heel.

2019-09-14 18:48:33 UTC

Your truisms are seriously annoying. Focus on facts, you autist

2019-09-14 18:48:34 UTC

Many Russians would approve the plan.

2019-09-14 18:49:02 UTC

I'm just thinking like a Russian

2019-09-14 18:49:26 UTC

Liek it or not the number of what you call "autists" in this country is pretty high.

2019-09-14 18:49:34 UTC

Including in powerful places.

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