Canada is equally to blame for the situation I the Middle East. To call it Pussy footing is to compare car to a building our whole presence in Afghanistan did sweet fuck all were just sticking our toe in the water and saying we are helping, and it’s the same shit with Mali. I’m alright hearing climate bs I can ignore it from a government but we are literally fucking countries with the mast of our ship that we can’t tell if it’s sinking or we’ve been doing it wrong

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/devan-bracci-selvey-bullying-shari-1.5315029

the principal of Churchill is going to go down. the mother tried to meet with him a few times, and all he did was ignore her. he's done this before, but it won't work this time. too many eyes are on him.

https://www.reddit.com/r/metacanada/comments/dfzhfs/this_about_sums_up_the_leaders_debate

lol i did call that as being the most memeable moment

I don't suppose anyone is watching the french debates? lol

they don't have the timer on screen like for the English debates

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEWSLb5U9qU

Not sure why it's not showing the description or anything, but that's the livestream of the French debate with English translation

im turning it on

lol they changed format by the look of it

b.c it was shit in the english debate

instead of FFA, they do groups of 3

right now talking about what they'll do to help seniors living alone

its all liberal issues

no actual issues

when it first started they went over the climate BS again.

weres discussion on immigation?
where is the foreign policy?
military?

HAHAHAHA singh just said he wouldnt raise taxes

*on middle class

yeah

May's French is pretty terrible.

watch him change the definition of middle class to mean nothing.

she frenchifies an english word every once in a while.

when there is a different French word to use for it.

The problem with their stupidity is for most people to join the middle class or stay in the middle class (through retirement) they will make large sums of money during 2-10 years of best pay.
If you and your wife both make 150-250k (together) you are in the top 10 %

most people will join that top 10% for a year or two

What is considered middle class in terms of income?

between 80-150k if im not mistaken

That seems high.

```Median income is the point at which half the families in a country earn more and the other half earns less. Right now that figure is 92,700 Canadian dollars for families and 33,000 Canadian dollars for individuals.```

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/26/world/canada/middle-class-income-wealth.html

```So what does it take in Canada to be in the middle class? The median household income reached $70,336 in 2015, according to the latest census data. That is the middle point of the national income ladder.```

https://globalnews.ca/news/3828447/canada-middle-class-income-inequality/

https://shawglobalnews.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/raw_2l1w_cost-of-living_middle-class-income.jpg?quality=70&strip=all&w=1024&h=1505

it does depend where you are, maybe my area influences my opinion on it

you live near fort mcmurray? lol

nah GTA

ah, same

If I made 100k a year, I'd be set.

like god damn.

a teacher round gta get start around 60 and go up to 120 (principal)

teachers i find have fairly good view of "middle class salary"

middle to upper

so if you have two teachers 10 years in they can earn 180K to 200k ish

at their peak earnings thereby being in upper class

that's ridiculous

the other issue is people often spend too much and thereby earn at one level but live at a lower level.
earning 200k but spend so hard they are having trouble with finances

why does anyone take them seriously when they go on strike?

Maybe people should stop being stupid with their money.

that would help

canadians are addicted to credit

Social credit?

I think he means loans

like credit cards and such

Y not both?

no

good troll, though.

```Canadians owed roughly $1.74 in credit market debt in the second quarter, which includes consumer credit, mortgages and non-mortgage loans, for every dollar of household disposable income, the agency said Friday. ```

```total credit market borrowing increased to $23.5 billion```

why

jfc

don't spend what you don't have.

it's not hard

keeping up with the jones's

how many canadians do you know that dont have the latest phone?

people are baffled that I have a 5-6 year old phone

I don't even know what the latest phones are.

I just get a new one after mine craps out.

which is years

i have a 5s i upgraded from 5c a bit ago cause that one broke

```As of 2015, when the census data was collected, it took a household income of over $91,000 just to make it into the very bottom of Fort McMurray’s middle class. To be in the third quintile — the middle section of the middle class — you had to be making, roughly, between $163,000 and $221,000. Being in the top quintile took around $300,000, over twice the minimum of $131,000 it takes, on average, in Canada.```

yeah Fort McMurray is crazy, wtf.

why is it so high?

that was back in the booming oil

trudeau has fixed that

ah

great

thanks trudeau

i doubt its as high now

Now they're talking about better services in French.

zzzzzzzzzzz

does quebec do anything but suck on the govt teat?

I don't think so.

lol bernier just answered that question great

It's stupid, too, because they have all the maple syrup, and they have a lot of their own electric power.

i'm out of this debate its just the same as the english

bad questions

yeah, and it's the same policies/talking points

Now they're talking about aboriginals

interesting, they're talking about trade with china

foreign policy and immigration

actual section for this discussion

now they're talking about SNC Lavalin

might be worth re-watching later.

if you missed it

Canada needs to do more to combat climate change!
http://folk.uio.no/sigurdkn/tropomi/no2_201909_u1_map.png Canada is the problem

https://youtu.be/oyh-oPgeIiY

looking at the recent polls it seems that even by their standards ppc had bump from the debates

well looks like bernier is taking a slight lead in his riding