a weak outlook you have

No they should, but not outright with force

lol

I see that as unethical

well, your ethics are weak

Probably, but that’s what they are. I think it’s ethically wrong to make the first violent strike

any ethics that dont allow for self-defense are pacifistic and thus worthless

You don't believe in pre-emptive self defense?

That’s different, I support self defense.

you are saying that in sa they cant react to the threat

thats an example of self defense

What’s sa?

they may want to defend their property and livelihood

what's going on here

south africa?

Oooooh

What's going on in here I heard South Africa

South African land reform, heard of it?

eeeee

Yeah I have I didn’t know that’s what we were talking about

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-28/land-confiscations-loom-south-africa-rules-300000-gun-owners-turn-over-their

Tyranny of the majority

take farm and take gun so whitey can't fight back

``even though we outnumber whitey``

tfw you outnumber and outgun the SA whites but you're still scared they can put up a fight so you take their shit

chiang kai shek is a woke username

That's what your position is. @Griselda

Chinese Nationalists were pretty alright

they fought commies and no one really helped them(except Germany) until post ww2 when everyone finally realized the Soviets were fucking gay.

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@campodin they should fight back, I’m not saying they shouldn’t. But I’m saying they likely won’t win. The SA gov is the bad guy clearly, so the farmers are right to fight back

is 1st world teenagers arguing for authoritarian ideologies

government should provide for the security of its citizens

@Alice Redacted my favorite thing is people jacking off to Oriental cartoons

And their freedom

@Griselda but hey majority rules, bitch. Fighting back is against democracy

Not just security

SA is not a democracy

@campodin

😂

fight democracy now

**>supporting majority rule**

You just don't get it

Majority rule is against people like us because they indoctrinate kids to vote for them in school

@King Leopold II that's Griselda's position

bullshit

@campodin that's happened you autist

wait wdym people like us?

T h e r o i g h t

I’m just going to outright admit I joined this convo misunderstanding what we were taking about.

Oh wait you're a communist @21tagtmeiern

nah

*Then what are you*

schools don't indoctrinate against the right

@Griselda democracy the God that died of aids

@21tagtmeiern
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When was the last time you were in school pal

also i'm a normal Democrat

last time I was in school was 3 hours ago

College?

@Griselda yeah, and when you hold stupid positions like majority rules you realize it sounds really bad when it doesn't go your way.

Put in the wrong context

my history teacher was being super conservative today

man I wish I had that

where do you even live

in case you couldn't tell from the pfp i'm in high school

West coast is hell

I didn’t mean to convey that I believed majority rule was always right, just that it will always happen

Every city is fucking corrupted with leftist parasites

@Griselda no it does not

i go to a texan private school so i can see how that might be different

Lucky you

cities are fucked out here

Teacher actually brought politics and religion into class and no one did jack shit

they were anti religion

Look at the middle East. Many of the dictators were from the minority population @Griselda

And made us do a debate about guns

and it was fucking English

Fucking English class

@Griselda communists were never the majority in any country they took over

if you can connect it to the course it's all good imo

@Griselda monarchy is not majority rule either

Fair, I’m just wrong here

Majority rule is only a problem in democracy and revolution/riots

So are you arguing democracy is wrong?

yes

Absolutely

I’m of the opinion it’s one of the greatest tools we have, now without attacking me, I want to know why you think that. I’m legit curious

y is it the most successful ideology then?

I like republicanism, that is mixed government which includes limited democratic elements

<@&452955168099532800> are lewd avatars allowed

the fact that you used the word lewd means please don't

If so please warn/ban @Alice Redacted

oh thought you were asking for yourself lol

Democracy on its own leads to factionalism (a prime target for leftist revolution), incessant growth of government bureaucracy, and devaluing of public discourse to the lowest common denominator

I’ve never heard of a single democracy leading to a leftist revolution

eh, fuck off

idc if they're not allowed