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"Only God could make a universe"
I'm guessing
Yea
Ok what else can?
I can
U can make a universe?
Yea
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Wait
I can write a story
Can u make a universe using nothing?
A pencil
Paper
That's something
It's a universe
Who said the universe came from nothing?
It came from god
Non sequitur
If there was something else
That's a leap in logic
Yea
It is
Then it was a universe
What was
The universe could have been here for ever
And it has
Ok
So then ur arguing with the first part
I can do both
What's ur argument against the second part?
Nothing made the universe
Because it has no origin?
Yes
So it's first part
Both are related
Yes they are
But it's first part can we agree on that
Sure because time cannot exist without space
What
There is no time before space
Also I said only God could create a universe
Which u don't disagree with
So if there's no time nothing can happen so space must have around forever
Oh I see
For something to happen
Crap
But if God is outside of time then can he not do anything?
If he's omnipotent then he can
Question being, what created God?
If at least 5d
@gohan really
No, seriously, answer the question
What created God?
Nothing
A proto-God?
U need to be 5d to move without space
God just is
Then why could the universe have not come from nothing?
Why cannot the universe just "be"?
It can
But because of time
If God does not require a creator, neither does the universe
It's kinda illogical
Although obviously u can day the universe is god
Say
Btw if god is omnipotent then he his not bound by logic
U just defeated urself
Now I can claim whatever
No
Yes
If he's not bound by logic
Then he can create himself
No
No?
No
There's no logic to stop him
There cant be more than one omnipotent being
?????
There isnt
He can't create another
How do you know?
Ok
I debate Vs battles a lot
I'll just stop for a sec
Omnipotent is a big thing there
There is no evidence for god but u can make a undebunkable claim about it
Which probably means it's not true
Just cuz it can't be disproven means it's not true?
I said probably
Well then u can't know
I tried to make my best evidence for god
Obviously I didn't do that great
U can debunk the argument about the existence of a omnipotent being but u can debunk any god
So your entire argument for God's existence is "I know he must exist"
No
I can debunk the Christian god
Yes
U repeating gohans argument
I can do that to most specific god's
K do it to a god that's not Allah Christian or Isreal
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