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2018-09-09 04:44:35 UTC

O

2018-09-09 04:44:44 UTC

Crazy berries

2018-09-09 04:44:44 UTC

I want to hear

2018-09-09 04:45:19 UTC

Good Berries?

2018-09-09 04:45:29 UTC

Grimm

2018-09-09 04:45:32 UTC

Good Berries

2018-09-09 04:45:39 UTC

Whatever his name currently is

2018-09-09 04:45:44 UTC

howdy

2018-09-09 04:45:51 UTC

Hello

2018-09-09 04:45:55 UTC

Electric universe guy, hi

2018-09-09 04:45:57 UTC

Electric earth dude?

2018-09-09 04:46:00 UTC

Yep

2018-09-09 04:46:11 UTC

Great stuff

2018-09-09 04:47:13 UTC

Boring

2018-09-09 04:47:22 UTC

Tell me when MrGoodBerries talks @Ætos

2018-09-09 04:47:35 UTC

He’s talking, lol

2018-09-09 04:47:43 UTC

He is on mute

2018-09-09 04:47:46 UTC

Good try

2018-09-09 04:47:50 UTC

Only for you, lmao

2018-09-09 04:47:54 UTC

O

2018-09-09 04:47:54 UTC

I can hear him

2018-09-09 04:48:35 UTC

Lmao

2018-09-09 04:48:42 UTC

Lmfao

2018-09-09 04:48:53 UTC

😂

2018-09-09 04:49:28 UTC

For the record, an ugly dude putting melted Ice cream on his dick @Providence

2018-09-09 04:49:41 UTC

Hy

2018-09-09 04:49:42 UTC

Hey

2018-09-09 04:49:46 UTC

He wasn't ugly

2018-09-09 04:49:51 UTC

Fuck you

2018-09-09 04:49:56 UTC

Also a half naked fat lady squishing a dude

2018-09-09 04:50:08 UTC

He was, Fluff

2018-09-09 04:50:08 UTC

Wtf

2018-09-09 04:50:26 UTC

No he wasn't

2018-09-09 04:50:30 UTC

It was more memey than anything

2018-09-09 04:50:37 UTC

He's hot

2018-09-09 04:50:48 UTC

Oof, I must be ugly af then

2018-09-09 04:50:59 UTC

Can be

2018-09-09 04:51:15 UTC

I want to give my opinion but I don't want to see the pic

2018-09-09 04:51:38 UTC

I have been told I look like the gay guy on some show on Freeform

2018-09-09 04:51:55 UTC

I can see if I can find a pic of him and you can make judgments based on that

2018-09-09 04:52:01 UTC

:)

2018-09-09 04:52:22 UTC

Nat, the emoji we have on earth debate is that dude

2018-09-09 04:53:26 UTC

Oh, I mean he's not in a good pose

2018-09-09 04:54:13 UTC

Iirc the name of that site was Emil something

2018-09-09 04:54:21 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/488210531195420675/image0.png

2018-09-09 04:54:25 UTC

Vaguely like this guy apparently

2018-09-09 04:54:30 UTC

Hair is way different

2018-09-09 04:54:45 UTC

Is he 25 or 5

2018-09-09 04:54:52 UTC

Idfk because I don’t think I look like that

2018-09-09 04:55:01 UTC

But yeah, I suppose I look rather young

2018-09-09 04:55:09 UTC

😕

2018-09-09 04:55:29 UTC

😂

2018-09-09 04:55:40 UTC

Now I'm curious

2018-09-09 04:55:49 UTC

Let’s put it into perspective

2018-09-09 04:55:53 UTC

I was a junior

2018-09-09 04:56:02 UTC

And a girl in 8th grade hit on me

2018-09-09 04:56:09 UTC

She thought I was her age

2018-09-09 04:56:16 UTC

Translate that to ages please

2018-09-09 04:56:16 UTC

._.

2018-09-09 04:56:21 UTC

I don't get grades

2018-09-09 04:56:38 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/488211106620506113/ether.JPG

2018-09-09 04:56:40 UTC

1st grade is usually 6 years old

2018-09-09 04:56:48 UTC

So 13

2018-09-09 04:57:07 UTC

And I was a Junior, usually 16

2018-09-09 04:57:12 UTC

Oof

2018-09-09 04:57:19 UTC

Except I was 15 at the time

2018-09-09 04:57:19 UTC

I swear I feel like ætos is the male white version of me

2018-09-09 04:57:24 UTC

😂

2018-09-09 04:57:40 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/488211367221002244/synthed.jpg

2018-09-09 04:58:08 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/488211484346810383/spiritscience.png

2018-09-09 04:58:16 UTC

I HAVE PROOF OF A REAL LIFE DINOSAUR

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/488211516072525824/image0.jpg

2018-09-09 04:59:29 UTC

#Giants

2018-09-09 04:59:34 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/488211846638338058/wayout.JPG

2018-09-09 04:59:39 UTC

Uh

2018-09-09 04:59:41 UTC

Cathexis

2018-09-09 04:59:47 UTC

sup

2018-09-09 04:59:48 UTC

I don’t really want to go into you

2018-09-09 04:59:52 UTC

Just saying

2018-09-09 04:59:54 UTC

lolz

2018-09-09 04:59:55 UTC

._.

2018-09-09 04:59:59 UTC

That can't be taken out of context at all, cathy

2018-09-09 05:00:01 UTC

Go within me so hard

2018-09-09 05:00:05 UTC

Come within

2018-09-09 05:00:06 UTC

OH GOD

2018-09-09 05:00:09 UTC

<:snapsnap:484956825863585792>

2018-09-09 05:00:11 UTC

PLEASE NO

2018-09-09 05:00:15 UTC

lol

2018-09-09 05:00:54 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/488212182522396682/starterpack.png

2018-09-09 05:01:20 UTC

literally my ex girlfriend

2018-09-09 05:02:19 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/488212537511510026/steiner.png

2018-09-09 05:02:51 UTC

Ex girlfriends

2018-09-09 05:02:52 UTC

Ha

2018-09-09 05:03:06 UTC

I just have girls that I got off the ground with

2018-09-09 05:03:09 UTC

And then left

2018-09-09 05:03:12 UTC

And moved

2018-09-09 05:03:17 UTC

Thousands of miles away

2018-09-09 05:03:22 UTC

._.

2018-09-09 05:04:09 UTC

Interesting

2018-09-09 05:04:21 UTC

It makes sense

2018-09-09 05:04:37 UTC

I take just over a year and a half to get close

2018-09-09 05:04:49 UTC

At which point I usually am moving away for other reasons

2018-09-09 05:04:51 UTC

Handy

2018-09-09 05:04:51 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/488213175259627521/FB_IMG_1536413304109.jpg

2018-09-09 05:04:53 UTC

😄

2018-09-09 05:05:06 UTC

lol

2018-09-09 05:05:10 UTC

That's not true though Nat

2018-09-09 05:05:24 UTC

he was a priest turned jesuit and he dedicated the book to the pope

2018-09-09 05:05:33 UTC

😂

2018-09-09 05:05:47 UTC

Wasn’t that DesCartes?

2018-09-09 05:05:58 UTC

Not Copernicus?

2018-09-09 05:06:00 UTC

🤔

2018-09-09 05:06:01 UTC

nah

2018-09-09 05:06:04 UTC

it was Copernicus

2018-09-09 05:06:42 UTC

Darwin also had the approval (wasn't actively hated) of the church

2018-09-09 05:06:57 UTC

plus the quote in the beginning of the book says: "The terrestrial motion of the earth is no more than a hypothesis used to explain phenomenon and should not be taken as literal reality".

2018-09-09 05:07:01 UTC

Oof

2018-09-09 05:07:09 UTC

just sayin

2018-09-09 05:07:14 UTC

Wasn't till biblical literalism came about that everyone hated Darwin

2018-09-09 05:07:16 UTC

its just a model

2018-09-09 05:07:33 UTC

That’s called Luther, Nat

2018-09-09 05:07:58 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/488213960483536906/the_beginning.png

2018-09-09 05:08:04 UTC

See

2018-09-09 05:08:04 UTC

Luther?

2018-09-09 05:08:07 UTC

Cathexis gets it

2018-09-09 05:08:13 UTC

Martin Luther

2018-09-09 05:08:23 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/488214063826862080/theshow.png

2018-09-09 05:09:10 UTC

We only wish the end was to be witnessed with our own eyes

2018-09-09 05:10:23 UTC

The end that was supposed to happen like

2018-09-09 05:10:28 UTC

Years ago

2018-09-09 05:10:33 UTC

Multiple times

2018-09-09 05:11:22 UTC

You're in a simulation in a computer in the cloud

2018-09-09 05:12:59 UTC

So?

2018-09-09 05:13:40 UTC

So... you and I don't matter

2018-09-09 05:13:44 UTC

The watchmaker argument? Oof

2018-09-09 05:13:57 UTC

Good argument

2018-09-09 05:14:02 UTC

I believe in God for a completely different reason

2018-09-09 05:14:29 UTC

Can we have an argument without kicking people lol

2018-09-09 05:14:33 UTC

I feel like I’m the only one who thinks about the matter this way who’s in the channel, lol

2018-09-09 05:15:15 UTC

@Ætos tell me

2018-09-09 05:15:31 UTC

Haven’t I told you before?

2018-09-09 05:15:42 UTC

Nvm, I’ll say it anyways

2018-09-09 05:16:12 UTC

I know you have a different reason but don't really know your stance

2018-09-09 05:18:28 UTC

I believe in God as what defines the universe. I don’t see anything around me as evidence for God except that physical laws exist. Why do they exist? I call that God. Nothing else convinces me. Nothing is truly evidence. It’s just my take. God is an impersonal Force that allows physical laws to exist. At the very least that’s how it works in my mind.

2018-09-09 05:18:31 UTC

Time will not matter when we are connected to the AI

2018-09-09 05:18:59 UTC

#SimpleRick

2018-09-09 05:19:10 UTC

@Ætos wouldn't that make the bible junk?

2018-09-09 05:19:18 UTC

Maybe

2018-09-09 05:19:21 UTC

I see

2018-09-09 05:19:25 UTC

Can’t exactly prove the Bible

2018-09-09 05:19:38 UTC

Not going to pretend to be able to either

2018-09-09 05:19:45 UTC

So your definition of god is different than the actual definition of god

2018-09-09 05:19:53 UTC

So what do you reckon happens when you die?

2018-09-09 05:19:57 UTC

@Providence so you're a Jehovah's Witness.

2018-09-09 05:20:01 UTC

No idea

2018-09-09 05:20:06 UTC

Oh shit

2018-09-09 05:20:12 UTC

More likely than not, I’ll just cease to exist

2018-09-09 05:20:21 UTC

Not super difficult to imagine

2018-09-09 05:20:24 UTC

Thats a reasonable position, ætos

2018-09-09 05:21:07 UTC

It’s a different concept to assert that God is personal than to assert that God exists.

2018-09-09 05:21:30 UTC

So effectively you have an agnosticish attitude, who attributes forces we don't understand to an impersonal and uncaring force called God?

2018-09-09 05:22:01 UTC

I don't call the laws god I have the position of agnostic but am an atheist cause I don't believe in God

2018-09-09 05:22:15 UTC

Not exactly. The gaps argument of “what I cannot explain must be caused by God” isn’t particularly of use.

2018-09-09 05:22:32 UTC

🤔 pantheist, ætos?

2018-09-09 05:22:35 UTC

I forgot

2018-09-09 05:22:49 UTC

I would assert in the place of the gaps argument that what I **can** understand exists because of God.

2018-09-09 05:23:01 UTC

Panentheist specifically

2018-09-09 05:23:08 UTC

Ahh

2018-09-09 05:23:16 UTC

Which upon a google search is apparently different

2018-09-09 05:23:21 UTC

😕

2018-09-09 05:23:25 UTC

Lel

2018-09-09 05:23:39 UTC

I can remember you found a term for your position but can't remember the term

2018-09-09 05:24:07 UTC

Panentheist Process theologist

2018-09-09 05:24:32 UTC

I have a name for it


*wrong*

2018-09-09 05:24:48 UTC

Jk

2018-09-09 05:24:51 UTC

God exists. What exists *can* exist because of God but does not exist because God influences it.

2018-09-09 05:24:59 UTC

It might be, Nat.

2018-09-09 05:25:09 UTC

I just don’t think it is.

2018-09-09 05:25:11 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/488218291282903050/40554768_325980184818306_6884027917660061696_n.jpg

2018-09-09 05:25:17 UTC

Not super complicated

2018-09-09 05:25:44 UTC

🤔 so you assert that God exists ?

2018-09-09 05:26:18 UTC

I assert that God does not exist. I cannot prove otherwise. Therefore I assume then that God exists.

2018-09-09 05:26:35 UTC

Fair call

2018-09-09 05:26:41 UTC

Mhm

2018-09-09 05:27:02 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/488218758578569230/FB_IMG_1528658680539.jpg

2018-09-09 05:27:03 UTC

The opposite call can be made to do the same as proof against God.

2018-09-09 05:27:19 UTC

The breakdown is that the initial assertion determines the final assumption

2018-09-09 05:27:33 UTC

You assert what you want in order to support your belief.

2018-09-09 05:27:47 UTC

I can’t even deny that in my own case.

2018-09-09 05:27:57 UTC

👋🏼 Gnite

2018-09-09 05:27:58 UTC

But it seems easier to disprove than prove.

2018-09-09 05:28:06 UTC

So I opt to disprove.

2018-09-09 05:28:16 UTC

Night @Louis take care

2018-09-09 05:28:58 UTC

Night louis

2018-09-09 05:29:48 UTC

I can't prove that god doesn't exist so I take the agnostic position
I don't know if it does or doesn't

2018-09-09 05:30:53 UTC

Might get hate for this one but i think it's more of a possibility for the concept of god to be man-made than god existing but ofc that's just a thought and I can't prove it

2018-09-09 05:31:21 UTC

I can’t disprove God and can not explain why there is any cohesion in the universe. I choose to explain the laws that define the universe by saying that they are the result of God. Yet I can’t assert I would know what God is.

2018-09-09 05:32:06 UTC

If something doesn't have the characteristics a "god" should then why call it god

2018-09-09 05:32:47 UTC

The power to define how a universe works seems rather god like to me.

2018-09-09 05:33:30 UTC

The issue is that people then assert God is a personal intelligence that influenced how the universe came to be.

2018-09-09 05:34:11 UTC

Well isn't that literally the definition of god

2018-09-09 05:34:19 UTC

I'd agree, however it seems to contradict all biblical knowledge

2018-09-09 05:34:30 UTC

Not only biblical

2018-09-09 05:34:30 UTC

You prove my point

2018-09-09 05:34:41 UTC

Pretty much anything we know about god

2018-09-09 05:34:55 UTC

You reject traditional knowledge of God and yet use him as a substitute for things we don't yet understand

2018-09-09 05:34:55 UTC

Religion and God have been convoluted into being something that is the same, yet the concepts are distinct.

2018-09-09 05:35:00 UTC

It contradicts the definition of god

2018-09-09 05:35:25 UTC

It contradicts a definition of god

2018-09-09 05:35:30 UTC

Likely many definitions

2018-09-09 05:36:16 UTC

The question is, why is it that what we know works?

2018-09-09 05:36:47 UTC

Not, “we don’t know how it works, so it’s God?”

2018-09-09 05:36:53 UTC

String theroy innit

2018-09-09 05:37:09 UTC

fuck string theory

2018-09-09 05:37:18 UTC

If you want to get very deep into it, that would be one way to go into it.

2018-09-09 05:37:27 UTC

Pepper 😠

2018-09-09 05:37:31 UTC

String theory has no proof, though, ironically

2018-09-09 05:37:44 UTC

string theory has no proof and no way of prooving it

2018-09-09 05:37:49 UTC

It explains things, but as an explanation, it has not been observed

2018-09-09 05:37:54 UTC

Neither does God (edgy take)

2018-09-09 05:38:00 UTC

ooof

2018-09-09 05:38:10 UTC

but yeah, no one uses string theory

2018-09-09 05:38:27 UTC

Of course God cannot be proved, lol

2018-09-09 05:38:37 UTC

I never said one could

2018-09-09 05:38:42 UTC

Cause he isnt real

2018-09-09 05:38:53 UTC

The meaning of god is pretty much consistent is all religions we know of tbh

2018-09-09 05:39:00 UTC

I would argue that proving God would be impossible regardless of if God is real or not.

2018-09-09 05:39:12 UTC

I'd disagree with you Fluff

2018-09-09 05:39:22 UTC

Eh

2018-09-09 05:39:29 UTC

She isn’t particularly wrong

2018-09-09 05:39:40 UTC

They aren’t the most consistent

2018-09-09 05:39:40 UTC

...

2018-09-09 05:39:47 UTC

But they do tie in a bit

2018-09-09 05:39:56 UTC

Proving God is impossible

2018-09-09 05:40:11 UTC

Soldz, why is the earth flat if there is no God?

2018-09-09 05:40:14 UTC

🤔

2018-09-09 05:40:23 UTC

Math and logic

2018-09-09 05:40:27 UTC

Yeah Soldz why are you FE?

2018-09-09 05:40:30 UTC

Lmfao

2018-09-09 05:40:35 UTC

Math and logic

2018-09-09 05:40:36 UTC

FE doesnt need a dome to be real

2018-09-09 05:40:43 UTC

Usually it's the hard religion peeps who are into it

2018-09-09 05:40:46 UTC

@Louis nite

2018-09-09 05:40:51 UTC

i would argue the general concept of a god is pretty consistant

2018-09-09 05:40:54 UTC

No, it doesn’t, Soldz

2018-09-09 05:41:08 UTC

God isn't the exact same in every religion, nat but the gist of it remains
All "gods" have different characteristics in different religion and they act in different ways but the gist of it is pretty much same

2018-09-09 05:41:24 UTC

But if you want to use what FEs have known must be rejected in order for FE to exist **as your proof**?

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