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I want to hear
Whatever his name currently is
Electric universe guy, hi
Electric earth dude?
He’s talking, lol
He is on mute
Only for you, lmao
I can hear him
For the record, an ugly dude putting melted Ice cream on his dick @Providence
He wasn't ugly
Also a half naked fat lady squishing a dude
He was, Fluff
No he wasn't
It was more memey than anything
Oof, I must be ugly af then
I want to give my opinion but I don't want to see the pic
I have been told I look like the gay guy on some show on Freeform
I can see if I can find a pic of him and you can make judgments based on that
Nat, the emoji we have on earth debate is that dude
Oh, I mean he's not in a good pose
Iirc the name of that site was Emil something
Vaguely like this guy apparently
Hair is way different
Is he 25 or 5
Idfk because I don’t think I look like that
But yeah, I suppose I look rather young
Now I'm curious
Let’s put it into perspective
I was a junior
And a girl in 8th grade hit on me
She thought I was her age
Translate that to ages please
I don't get grades
1st grade is usually 6 years old
And I was a Junior, usually 16
Except I was 15 at the time
I swear I feel like ætos is the male white version of me
I HAVE PROOF OF A REAL LIFE DINOSAUR
I don’t really want to go into you
That can't be taken out of context at all, cathy
Go within me so hard
literally my ex girlfriend
I just have girls that I got off the ground with
And then left
Thousands of miles away
It makes sense
I take just over a year and a half to get close
At which point I usually am moving away for other reasons
That's not true though Nat
he was a priest turned jesuit and he dedicated the book to the pope
Wasn’t that DesCartes?
it was Copernicus
Darwin also had the approval (wasn't actively hated) of the church
plus the quote in the beginning of the book says: "The terrestrial motion of the earth is no more than a hypothesis used to explain phenomenon and should not be taken as literal reality".
Wasn't till biblical literalism came about that everyone hated Darwin
its just a model
That’s called Luther, Nat
Cathexis gets it
We only wish the end was to be witnessed with our own eyes
The end that was supposed to happen like
You're in a simulation in a computer in the cloud
So... you and I don't matter
The watchmaker argument? Oof
I believe in God for a completely different reason
Can we have an argument without kicking people lol
I feel like I’m the only one who thinks about the matter this way who’s in the channel, lol
Haven’t I told you before?
Nvm, I’ll say it anyways
I know you have a different reason but don't really know your stance
I believe in God as what defines the universe. I don’t see anything around me as evidence for God except that physical laws exist. Why do they exist? I call that God. Nothing else convinces me. Nothing is truly evidence. It’s just my take. God is an impersonal Force that allows physical laws to exist. At the very least that’s how it works in my mind.
Time will not matter when we are connected to the AI
Can’t exactly prove the Bible
Not going to pretend to be able to either
So your definition of god is different than the actual definition of god
So what do you reckon happens when you die?
More likely than not, I’ll just cease to exist
Not super difficult to imagine
Thats a reasonable position, ætos
It’s a different concept to assert that God is personal than to assert that God exists.
So effectively you have an agnosticish attitude, who attributes forces we don't understand to an impersonal and uncaring force called God?
I don't call the laws god I have the position of agnostic but am an atheist cause I don't believe in God
Not exactly. The gaps argument of “what I cannot explain must be caused by God” isn’t particularly of use.
🤔 pantheist, ætos?
I would assert in the place of the gaps argument that what I **can** understand exists because of God.
Which upon a google search is apparently different
I can remember you found a term for your position but can't remember the term
Panentheist Process theologist
I have a name for it
God exists. What exists *can* exist because of God but does not exist because God influences it.
It might be, Nat.
I just don’t think it is.
Not super complicated
🤔 so you assert that God exists ?
I assert that God does not exist. I cannot prove otherwise. Therefore I assume then that God exists.
The opposite call can be made to do the same as proof against God.
The breakdown is that the initial assertion determines the final assumption
You assert what you want in order to support your belief.
I can’t even deny that in my own case.
But it seems easier to disprove than prove.
So I opt to disprove.
I can't prove that god doesn't exist so I take the agnostic position
I don't know if it does or doesn't
Might get hate for this one but i think it's more of a possibility for the concept of god to be man-made than god existing but ofc that's just a thought and I can't prove it
I can’t disprove God and can not explain why there is any cohesion in the universe. I choose to explain the laws that define the universe by saying that they are the result of God. Yet I can’t assert I would know what God is.
If something doesn't have the characteristics a "god" should then why call it god
The power to define how a universe works seems rather god like to me.
The issue is that people then assert God is a personal intelligence that influenced how the universe came to be.
Well isn't that literally the definition of god
I'd agree, however it seems to contradict all biblical knowledge
Not only biblical
You prove my point
Pretty much anything we know about god
You reject traditional knowledge of God and yet use him as a substitute for things we don't yet understand
Religion and God have been convoluted into being something that is the same, yet the concepts are distinct.
It contradicts the definition of god
It contradicts a definition of god
Likely many definitions
The question is, why is it that what we know works?
Not, “we don’t know how it works, so it’s God?”
String theroy innit
fuck string theory
If you want to get very deep into it, that would be one way to go into it.
String theory has no proof, though, ironically
string theory has no proof and no way of prooving it
It explains things, but as an explanation, it has not been observed
Neither does God (edgy take)
but yeah, no one uses string theory
Of course God cannot be proved, lol
I never said one could
Cause he isnt real
The meaning of god is pretty much consistent is all religions we know of tbh
I would argue that proving God would be impossible regardless of if God is real or not.
I'd disagree with you Fluff
She isn’t particularly wrong
They aren’t the most consistent
But they do tie in a bit
Proving God is impossible
Soldz, why is the earth flat if there is no God?
Math and logic
Yeah Soldz why are you FE?
Math and logic
FE doesnt need a dome to be real
Usually it's the hard religion peeps who are into it
i would argue the general concept of a god is pretty consistant
No, it doesn’t, Soldz
God isn't the exact same in every religion, nat but the gist of it remains
All "gods" have different characteristics in different religion and they act in different ways but the gist of it is pretty much same
But if you want to use what FEs have known must be rejected in order for FE to exist **as your proof**?