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2018-09-09 05:19:18 UTC

Maybe

2018-09-09 05:19:21 UTC

I see

2018-09-09 05:19:25 UTC

Canโ€™t exactly prove the Bible

2018-09-09 05:19:38 UTC

Not going to pretend to be able to either

2018-09-09 05:19:45 UTC

So your definition of god is different than the actual definition of god

2018-09-09 05:19:53 UTC

So what do you reckon happens when you die?

2018-09-09 05:19:57 UTC

@Providence so you're a Jehovah's Witness.

2018-09-09 05:20:01 UTC

No idea

2018-09-09 05:20:06 UTC

Oh shit

2018-09-09 05:20:12 UTC

More likely than not, Iโ€™ll just cease to exist

2018-09-09 05:20:21 UTC

Not super difficult to imagine

2018-09-09 05:20:24 UTC

Thats a reasonable position, รฆtos

2018-09-09 05:21:07 UTC

Itโ€™s a different concept to assert that God is personal than to assert that God exists.

2018-09-09 05:21:30 UTC

So effectively you have an agnosticish attitude, who attributes forces we don't understand to an impersonal and uncaring force called God?

2018-09-09 05:22:01 UTC

I don't call the laws god I have the position of agnostic but am an atheist cause I don't believe in God

2018-09-09 05:22:15 UTC

Not exactly. The gaps argument of โ€œwhat I cannot explain must be caused by Godโ€ isnโ€™t particularly of use.

2018-09-09 05:22:32 UTC

๐Ÿค” pantheist, รฆtos?

2018-09-09 05:22:35 UTC

I forgot

2018-09-09 05:22:49 UTC

I would assert in the place of the gaps argument that what I **can** understand exists because of God.

2018-09-09 05:23:01 UTC

Panentheist specifically

2018-09-09 05:23:08 UTC

Ahh

2018-09-09 05:23:16 UTC

Which upon a google search is apparently different

2018-09-09 05:23:21 UTC

๐Ÿ˜•

2018-09-09 05:23:25 UTC

Lel

2018-09-09 05:23:39 UTC

I can remember you found a term for your position but can't remember the term

2018-09-09 05:24:07 UTC

Panentheist Process theologist

2018-09-09 05:24:32 UTC

I have a name for it


*wrong*

2018-09-09 05:24:48 UTC

Jk

2018-09-09 05:24:51 UTC

God exists. What exists *can* exist because of God but does not exist because God influences it.

2018-09-09 05:24:59 UTC

It might be, Nat.

2018-09-09 05:25:09 UTC

I just donโ€™t think it is.

2018-09-09 05:25:11 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/488218291282903050/40554768_325980184818306_6884027917660061696_n.jpg

2018-09-09 05:25:17 UTC

Not super complicated

2018-09-09 05:25:44 UTC

๐Ÿค” so you assert that God exists ?

2018-09-09 05:26:18 UTC

I assert that God does not exist. I cannot prove otherwise. Therefore I assume then that God exists.

2018-09-09 05:26:35 UTC

Fair call

2018-09-09 05:26:41 UTC

Mhm

2018-09-09 05:27:02 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/488218758578569230/FB_IMG_1528658680539.jpg

2018-09-09 05:27:03 UTC

The opposite call can be made to do the same as proof against God.

2018-09-09 05:27:19 UTC

The breakdown is that the initial assertion determines the final assumption

2018-09-09 05:27:33 UTC

You assert what you want in order to support your belief.

2018-09-09 05:27:47 UTC

I canโ€™t even deny that in my own case.

2018-09-09 05:27:57 UTC

๐Ÿ‘‹๐Ÿผ Gnite

2018-09-09 05:27:58 UTC

But it seems easier to disprove than prove.

2018-09-09 05:28:06 UTC

So I opt to disprove.

2018-09-09 05:28:16 UTC

Night @Louis take care

2018-09-09 05:28:58 UTC

Night louis

2018-09-09 05:29:48 UTC

I can't prove that god doesn't exist so I take the agnostic position
I don't know if it does or doesn't

2018-09-09 05:30:53 UTC

Might get hate for this one but i think it's more of a possibility for the concept of god to be man-made than god existing but ofc that's just a thought and I can't prove it

2018-09-09 05:31:21 UTC

I canโ€™t disprove God and can not explain why there is any cohesion in the universe. I choose to explain the laws that define the universe by saying that they are the result of God. Yet I canโ€™t assert I would know what God is.

2018-09-09 05:32:06 UTC

If something doesn't have the characteristics a "god" should then why call it god

2018-09-09 05:32:47 UTC

The power to define how a universe works seems rather god like to me.

2018-09-09 05:33:30 UTC

The issue is that people then assert God is a personal intelligence that influenced how the universe came to be.

2018-09-09 05:34:11 UTC

Well isn't that literally the definition of god

2018-09-09 05:34:19 UTC

I'd agree, however it seems to contradict all biblical knowledge

2018-09-09 05:34:30 UTC

Not only biblical

2018-09-09 05:34:30 UTC

You prove my point

2018-09-09 05:34:41 UTC

Pretty much anything we know about god

2018-09-09 05:34:55 UTC

You reject traditional knowledge of God and yet use him as a substitute for things we don't yet understand

2018-09-09 05:34:55 UTC

Religion and God have been convoluted into being something that is the same, yet the concepts are distinct.

2018-09-09 05:35:00 UTC

It contradicts the definition of god

2018-09-09 05:35:25 UTC

It contradicts a definition of god

2018-09-09 05:35:30 UTC

Likely many definitions

2018-09-09 05:36:16 UTC

The question is, why is it that what we know works?

2018-09-09 05:36:47 UTC

Not, โ€œwe donโ€™t know how it works, so itโ€™s God?โ€

2018-09-09 05:36:53 UTC

String theroy innit

2018-09-09 05:37:09 UTC

fuck string theory

2018-09-09 05:37:18 UTC

If you want to get very deep into it, that would be one way to go into it.

2018-09-09 05:37:27 UTC

Pepper ๐Ÿ˜ 

2018-09-09 05:37:31 UTC

String theory has no proof, though, ironically

2018-09-09 05:37:44 UTC

string theory has no proof and no way of prooving it

2018-09-09 05:37:49 UTC

It explains things, but as an explanation, it has not been observed

2018-09-09 05:37:54 UTC

Neither does God (edgy take)

2018-09-09 05:38:00 UTC

ooof

2018-09-09 05:38:10 UTC

but yeah, no one uses string theory

2018-09-09 05:38:27 UTC

Of course God cannot be proved, lol

2018-09-09 05:38:37 UTC

I never said one could

2018-09-09 05:38:42 UTC

Cause he isnt real

2018-09-09 05:38:53 UTC

The meaning of god is pretty much consistent is all religions we know of tbh

2018-09-09 05:39:00 UTC

I would argue that proving God would be impossible regardless of if God is real or not.

2018-09-09 05:39:12 UTC

I'd disagree with you Fluff

2018-09-09 05:39:22 UTC

Eh

2018-09-09 05:39:29 UTC

She isnโ€™t particularly wrong

2018-09-09 05:39:40 UTC

They arenโ€™t the most consistent

2018-09-09 05:39:40 UTC

...

2018-09-09 05:39:47 UTC

But they do tie in a bit

2018-09-09 05:39:56 UTC

Proving God is impossible

2018-09-09 05:40:11 UTC

Soldz, why is the earth flat if there is no God?

2018-09-09 05:40:14 UTC

๐Ÿค”

2018-09-09 05:40:23 UTC

Math and logic

2018-09-09 05:40:27 UTC

Yeah Soldz why are you FE?

2018-09-09 05:40:30 UTC

Lmfao

2018-09-09 05:40:35 UTC

Math and logic

2018-09-09 05:40:36 UTC

FE doesnt need a dome to be real

2018-09-09 05:40:43 UTC

Usually it's the hard religion peeps who are into it

2018-09-09 05:40:46 UTC

@Louis nite

2018-09-09 05:40:51 UTC

i would argue the general concept of a god is pretty consistant

2018-09-09 05:40:54 UTC

No, it doesnโ€™t, Soldz

2018-09-09 05:41:08 UTC

God isn't the exact same in every religion, nat but the gist of it remains
All "gods" have different characteristics in different religion and they act in different ways but the gist of it is pretty much same

2018-09-09 05:41:24 UTC

But if you want to use what FEs have known must be rejected in order for FE to exist **as your proof**?

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