Message from @AlecK-FL
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Thats why trump can't do anything, because we still don't have control of the actual source of power
To give a crude metaphor, if we somehow instilled trump by pure force we would have the same problem
@AlecK-FL Let me state this since your comment could be inferred to mean otherwise: I did not make a call to violence as that is forbidden in this discord.
https://youtu.be/BxkL10Rhwp4?t=20m33s
he does the meme
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They key is to build a real counter culture to take on the cultural hehemony like the left did in the 60s/70s. Imagine if every single person in the alt right turned into an IRL activist tommarow
We will never control the metapolitics while anti-Whites control the levers of power, and the firepower of the state, to crush us. Trump has given us breathing room to attempt to gain control of the metapolitics but if he is impeached and the anti-Whites regain power they are coming for us all.
Wrong, you view power as a monolith, where power is just a "thing" you "take" with might. The monolith theory of power assumes the power of a government is a relativly fixed quantum, a "given", a strong independant, furable, self-reinforcing, and self perpetuating forced.
If this were true, no action or force could ever become a restraint on the ruling class
but we know thats not true. Those not in power use types of sanctions such as non-conplience or strikes to gain concessions
but those are just crude examples
Memes and shitpoasting only get us so far, and if voting doesn't mean anything then we each have to consider what that means. Fluke or not, Trump won and is the duly elected president, and the deep state is on the verge of a coup.
The fact is power is a give and take
You're using a lot of 50 cent words, and you and me are allies in this, but I don't agree with you or even quite understand what you're saying.
alright let me illustrate
This is simple. They're flooding our country with millions of nonwhites every year, legal and illegal. They won't let us win at the ballot box and soon it won't even be possible to do so even if 100% of Whites were on board with us. This doesn't end with us taking over the entire metapolitics of the nation, only, at best, of White people. But when we can't even vote our way to a better situation, what good does controlling the metapolitics do?
We will never make the nonWhites proWhite.
again, thats not what metapolitcs are
Politics are what people believe
A counter culture essentially changes the rules of engagement in this fight because the left will no longer believe it has defacto control over the language, actions, and even the ideology of the right
essentially, the alt-lite is a group slave to the metapolitcs
they are JUST there where they need to be, but they can't take the next step because they've made the current metapolitics (I guess you could say its political correctness) their side contraint
You can't talk about race, you can't advocate ending immigration, you can't talk bad about jews
We KNOW this model is true because of trump's situation
The Vote was a summation of what the American people were suppose to believe, but because everyone things everyone thinks drumpf is evil, that legitimacy crysis flows down to the white house
No country can be controled by a single person, and trump has to manage all kinds of advisors and secretaries, such a thing is true even in a fascist regime
These actors aren't sure or don't belive they have the legitimacy from the cultural hegemony to act, so the situation we are in arrises
Lets say in theory the answer was civil war. What after? You can't build a new state in your favor because you still don't have cultural power. You going to kill everyone in the media too? And then hollywood? Then jail everyone who marches in the streets in resistance?
The problem now is that the people will just unendlessly sanction the new ethnostate because of their overuse of power until it falls, as has happened time and time again in the past
Rhodesia, case in point.
As I said above, power is not a "rock" that is passed around. The state claims power, the people/metapolitcs react.
Sure, the state may use guns to ignore what the people say in reaction to the state's action, but they can only do that so many times
I hope that cleared my position
The state is reliant on the population believing in it to a large degree.
This is why IE focuses on creating a counter culture instead of pure displays of militancy. Because the later gets you nowhere
Whether the population believes the state helps them or hurts them, love or fear give it power/legitimacy.
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You put a lot on the table. I get what you're saying, but a few points in response. First, I don't see how the assumption that "everyone thinks everyone thinks drumpf is evil" can be assumed, because he won the election. At best, the assumption is "everyone thinks that half of the country thinks that drumpf is evil." Second, the underlings are either following orders as they are bound to do, or they are part of a coup -- they are not and cannot base their actions on whether they think their orders are backed up by the "cultural hegemony". And as for civil war, we have real world examples of how that plays out: one side gets slaughtered into submission. That can and has been successfully done many times throughout history, our own American Civil War being the most salient example. With the power of the state captured by nonwhites, even through an impeachment-based coup, and the very culture itself becoming majority nonWhite (and anti-White) in the very near future, even if your theory is true, the "cultural hegemony" will be explicitly anti-White, and that will only further empower the state to crush us. I think Trump's recent statements about slashing legal immigration and changing the makeup of that immigration is not a coincidence when it comes to Mueller's grand jury empaneling.