I have to disagree. A lot of people used the alt-lite as a stepping stone to becoming an ethnic nationalist

I agree James

For example, does NRM attract people who would have otherwise gone to cuck groups if we had any, or do the people who would be attracted to alt light do anything right now, due to the lack of an organization moderate enough for them? It's a genuinely good question. I've talked with patriotards who take part in our demos despite of them being out and out nazi even though they're more moderate, but we're the only ones doing anything and doing it right, so they're on board for that, and become radicalized later. I've only had a few people telling they're unable to take part due to us being "too nazi". There's several types of recruit, one is, unideological, but feels something is wrong, and seeks a strong group to change that. I feel this particular type doesn't really care about ideological or presentation, but thinks purely in the terms of what is being achieved and done right now.

Libertarianism, although slowly, allowed me to embrace National Socialism over time.

@Arcturus good point, I came this position starting out as MERICA fuk yea person

I did the same to some degree, though differently than that exactly, I didn't just wake up one day and think hitler was a good person

lol me neither, the red pill has taken time to fully hit me

I woke up one day realizing Hitler was right, pretty much. I was apolitical, but I was surrounded by degenerates and subhumans, I read Mein Kampf and realized that he was on point about everything, and joined NS organization as soon as I could.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're the exception and not the rule tbh

A lot of people need to take baby steps to getting here

Yeah I passed through normie conservative, left-libertarian, Hoppean, and I-swear-I'm-not-a-Nazi on my way here

Not really. I know many ex-communists turned nazis. If you think about it, libertarian turned nazi is even weirder.

Both believe in equality, but libertarians don't even believe in a state.

I'd say a communist turned NS is weirder

that would be a huge switch out....or even a RINO to NS lol

Libertarians believe in hierarchy, right ones at least, communists do not

Not necessarily. An caps don't believe in a state, Libs believed in the smallest state possible.

Going from a private hierarchy to state hierarchy isn't as large of a leap. You at least acknowledge some are more fit to lead

Nah, they're aware there's an international class of capitalists stealing the wealth of nations, while libertarian would refer to that as commie talk. They're more on point on geopolitical issues as well, they're considerably more anti Israel and pro Iran than libertarians. They just haven't achieved race consciousness yet.

And libertarianism allowed me to embrace that people are different and should be treated as such while also disavowing faith in the cult of 'equality'.

https://dailystormer.hk/libertarianism-and-marxism-the-twin-offspring-of-liberalism/

Good one, recommended reading.

"The central underlying assumption of Marxism (and by extension, of all the SJW nonsense that is plaguing us today) is the notion that humans are fundamentally equal in their abilities (talent, potential, intelligence, etc). This is the logic behind the uplifting of Third World primitives to our level, the abolishing of gender roles, and all the other ills of the modern experience.

Libertarianism, on the other hand, is based on the notion that men are morally equal, which is to say that all men are selfish and self-interested. Thus giving any man power over others will lead to corruption, as he uses this power for selfish ends. But the ideology does recognize that there is a wide difference in abilities between men. From this dichotomy we get ideas like abolishing governments, or preventing state monopolies.

Marxism and Libertarianism, when presented this way, seem diametrically opposed; one believes in equality of ability but a moral hierarchy, while the other believes in moral equality but a hierarchy of ability. But both are still based on the liberal lie of equality—they just apply it differently. To the weak-minded emotional thinker, it is easier to accept the victim mentality that comes with Marxism, while to the rugged individualist it’s easier to accept the idea that everyone is selfish and that all authority is evil."
"The enemies of our people want us weak. With Marxism, they make us weak individually so that it matters not if we unite our forces. Through libertarianism, they insure that the strong among us stay isolated rather than uniting their powers and posing a threat.

We must abandon foolish notions of “objectivity” if those lead to our destruction. “Freedom” is no different from “tolerance”. We all understand now that tolerance is not a virtue if the thing being tolerated is evil (bad for our people and against the natural order). Likewise, freedom to commit evil cannot be considered desirable. All that matters is freedom to do good. Today, we are not free to do good, because all laws are inverted by our enemies. Wishful thinkers long for freedom, thinking ‘well, if we were totally free at least I could do the right thing’. This is a compromise. Instead, we should long for total victory, where the only freedom is freedom to do good (meaning, what is good for our people). Our enemies certainly don’t cheer for the freedom to do what they don’t like, and neither should we."

I was just listening to Anglin today in a debate with Vox Day on 'Is NS a right wing or left wing movement?' Vox' argument was that the Right is concerned with the individual while Anglin argued the Right is concerned with tradition and the family unit.

vox is a fag lmao

The Vox/Anglin debate was really retarded. Libertarianism have this scale of their own that place themselves at one end and Bolsheviks and Nazis at the other.

Yea, Anglin trashed him.

Anglin has been kinda gay recently but he's right on that

He has supported relinquishing the control of the streets to reds and nogs in fear, total cuckoldry.

Also Muh American Nationalism Rebrand

Yeah, libertarians have this retarded political compass that's only up or down rather than left or right

I loved the part where Vox called him a liar, Anglin asked 'where specifically' and Vox was like 'Hold on, I'll look it up on my computer'

completely lacks nuance

And his Russia and Ukraine articles were fucking retarded always but I never bothered complaining about them but latest shit crossed the line.

If you are going to be on a recorded debate and accuse someone of lying, you mmmight want that info on the tip of your tongue

@Kombat-Unit I agree with what you said. About normies not caring so much about ideology than strength and action. Things are going so badly, and I saw Republicans as part of the problem and libertarians as weak. As @Hadrian once said strength projection works.

Patriotard libertarians are probably the most enraging to argue with after christian zionists because like them, they got a whole political language of their own no one else understands. Hitler was a bolshevik despite of rallying entire Europe to destroy communism. Liberals are nazis. Libertarian conservative christian is pretty much the peak cancer.

God loves the jewish people and capitalism.

I guess how easily you are converted to nazism depends on your race consciousness. Like Marx said, the workers in the most extreme conditions will achieve class consciousness, so the whites in the most extreme racial conditions will achieve race consciousness. If you're surrounded by nonwhites and degenerates, you will find people very receptive to Mein Kampf, even if it was the first political book they read. Kikes will tell you its boring to keep you away, but its the most exciting book I've ever read.

I'm working through it my second time around, it is an incredibly inspiring book.