is that when there's no wind

I think we'll go with bottom left for everything.

@Norman Rising sun?

it's just an american flag

Black sun*

That's why the top left is that much cooler.

Top left is much better than dead center

@Norman The sonfnenrad is a rune, it is not an American symbol. It has never been prominently featured in American history.

(I'm a jap infiltrator) I've been found out ⛑

I will download and add george to see how it looks

bottom right

@BraeJager - TX No really

looks very militant

or middle right

What about the top left though?

this one?

https://i.gyazo.com/fe8335841aa50cf4911ff943d1e3ad5a.png

^very texas esque

it's fine. the symbolism is 13 stars, 13 stripes. both are symbols of the 13 original colonies. Why not do 14 stars, for 14 words? too much?

Texas isnt the only state with a top-to-bottom blue field. @ZeDwiver

@BraeJager - TX The original flag of the Union had 13 stars/stripes. And the 14 words is a bit of a recent cultural trend to compare to a banner our people held a revolution under.

https://i.gyazo.com/44e301888f77fcf9b2d730329405abd3.png

Reminds me of this

well, yes it's a recent cultural trend... but aren't we a very modern, scientific, forward-looking, avant guard sort of movement?

^^^^

Avant garde*

bitch...

😉

And yes we are, that's why slogans can change.

I don't think the 14 words is cool enough to put on our flag.

I like it, don't get me wrong, but it's not something that we're doing to explicitly define our nation around. The slogan itself, not the concept.

@Thötterdämmerung is that the dude from Senfield?

shhh

@Thötterdämmerung What's wrong with that flag? It's cool.

It's from a vidya game

What do we need to design a succession map? Then our stars can represent the new states.

not a bad idea

blue field, fasces, stripes.

We can't really say that states will secede on state lines

13 stars is the number of the first revolution, thus representing the new revolution