Message from @Thomas Ryan
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Fuk u
Lol
We're Fascists, which is a more specific worldview than WN, and I've spoken against using the term before because of its broad implications. The system works for Blacks in some ways, because they as a population rely on others to maintain their western standard of living. That's why Black Nationalism is never seriously about making demands for territory, or at least not in any way that it is for Whites.
People know that a Black nation state in America would be another Africa. Enough Blacks know this to not get on board with the idea. Everyone knows an American America would succeed because, well, it has up until this point.
Also, Malcom X desired territory that was part of continental America, which is a no-go in the grander scheme of things. He was right about how we're incompatible, and since he was so right, they either have to go, or get to go, depending on how willing they are.
I believe the progression of events will be that freedom of association will segregate groups as the govt declines in power, and then a cultural, social, or political revolution will take place which will pave the way for limited citizenship programs, reproductive legislation which will vary to each people, and finally a vast remigration program which will take the willing to ethnic homelands and settle them, and the unwilling, likely criminals and such, and dump them.
That's the best outcome we can stand to look at.
Thinking that Blacks would agree to live on American soil, but just give up all the gibsmedats from Americans is almost as absurd as thinking that national balance will be attained by a small group of nazis going town to town to exterminate tens of millions of people and somehow doing it successfully.
>not willing to engage in sub-saharan africa-style civil war
This isn't what I signed up for
Machete cleansing squad now
Yeah we should be drawing inspiration from the Tutsi's in Rwanda tbh
The machete is a pretty fear inducing weapon. They had the right idea.
I suggest we bring back the classic American icon, the Bowie knife
If the path forward leads to a sub-saharan Africa-style machete-waving ethnic cleansing, we'll have led the people into such moral and ethical darkness that any victory seen by those means will be hollow.
Are we Rhodesia posting
Well you wont save the whole Nation, the key to gain control of a section of it.
We're Uganda posting
Uganda's successes are what we should emulate
But if cutting open a vein and shoving as much cocaine mixed with gunpowder inside as possible and devoting your life to war crimes isn't the path to the ethnostate
Then???
@Ƿuffing There are no borders within America but those between the spirit of those with the will to fight and those without. Secession will not work. Any piece of territory which decides to leave has hardly any chance of surviving the first defensive conflicts, nevermind the ongoing conflicts that will wage for as long as the U.S. still exists as a governmental apparatus.
The nation sinks or swims as a unit, and there's not much of a chance of a fully new society splitting off during the type of conflict we will expect. Any borders, or what could be called them, will be so unconventional and not drawn on geographic or state lines, but more the lines between homes and people's minds. It will look more like the electoral map by county, but without any straight lines, and less like a map of Europe overlain on current U.S. federal boundaries.
@Thötterdämmerung Don't forget that eating baby flesh makes you bulletproof.
But there are Borders, Just as there is a Culture of the people in Deseret or Dixie or Cascadia or Alaska, these borders maybe Religion or Culture. In America, for the longest time, Religion has the greatest divider by region for the European populations. Now on top of that distance and regionalism have slowly started to take root. And as things get worse this will be seen to a greater extent. Our nation may fall as a unit but it does not rise as a unit we are already broken down by states and groupings of States. And those groupings of State will start to see they have more in common with each other than they do with the National Identity.
Of course, these new borders may not look like state lines or federal boundaries because these lines do not represent much of any common culture or Identity for the most part. Its like Washington West and East are Ideologically opponents of one another.
Secession won't work how it did in the 1860's that is for sure. We are in a new era and will have to use a new method for securing regions. And the most reasonable is to progress as the Feds regress. And this is how we and any other Regionalist organization will operate.
I believe, as a member of this movement, you vastly overestimate how much people factor in their regional location into their identity. The South is a notable example of such regionalism, and arguably the strongest case, but it has not had any degree of progress towards independance, and has only become more in line with the rest of the nation in terms of infrastructure, population, and means of living. Someone in Texas has enough in common with someone in Oklahoma, or Washington, or North Dakota to live under the same govermnent as them. To think otherwise is counterproductive. I imagine the divide in Washington is based on urban/rural, which also aligns with the electoral map or red/blue, which will be the loose basis of divide as things continue, but it is so broad as to not be confined by climate or geography.
I think even Eastern Washington has Spokane which is Urban
Al Yakima
The basis of attaining territory is done as the govt retracts resources, disenfranchising Americans, and stable communities are built in the wake of that with new standards and rules. This will happen everywhere but within the centers of major cities, where the mass non-White populations will be crowded and given their bread and games and all that. Outside those cities, however, an American in Georgia will not be fighting an American in Ohio, or one in Oregon will not fight one in Utah. The masses react based on their needs, and how they are met, any force that can build community and meet these needs will have their support, whether they have blue and green on their flag or red and blue.
Well this is how the TWP is opperating in Appalachia, and creating their deal of a White Afganistan as cringey as that is
For all their faults, Anarchists and the like are spot on when it comes to community involvement.
Oh boi
Teach the folks that the govt hates you, encourage them not to to go the govt for help, and them help them yourselves and thus meet their needs and grow a more solid base of support.
Communitarians
Of course, it's a plan that's dead on arrival because of the people they reach out to being the bottom rung of society, and their overall idea of no heirarchy being nonsensical, but the broken clock is right on that time of day.
#KnowYourEnemy
Nice.
They definitely know who y'all are. So that means every time y'all go out there and do something good, they'll help us in promoting it.