Message from @Ablesmith
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absolutely aesthetic
@Thomas Ryan PLEASE make these official propaganda.
@everyone y’all better follow me
We don't do fashwave on the official accounts because it has colors other than red/white/blue. HOWEVER, you're free to post them on personal accounts and all that.
Very cool.
Yea those are badass
Okay, question. Even though you don't use the swastika, do you beleive in what it represents?
I believe it is a symbol that represents a people that I do not belong to.
I'm going to say yes since most people associate it with George Lincoln Rockwell's "this is the symbol of my race" doctrine.
But I don't think we should use it as an explicitly american organization
I believe Thomas views it as german symbol specifically
The swastikas is a foreign symbol, I wouldn't use the sonnenrand or Slavic sun wheel either
The fasces is literally the physical representation of "from many one"
they are both ancient symbols and I understand the affinity for it
I think it's more of a broadly Germanic thing, if any. We also don't use relatively un-demonized runes like the black sun because they aren't American in nature.
I don't know what your ethnic origin is but greater than our ethnicities the swastika represents the white race and even greater than that it is a symbol of the idea of ethno-nationalism as a whole
That said, I happen to remember a few members with a swastika flag
@Ablesmith How does the symbol itself, as part of its origin, represent ethnonationalism?
You can have a swastika or you can actually have members, easy call for me.
You’ve already got to be redpilled to appreciate the imagery, and without that you’re just going to be turned off. Practicality over sentimental symbols
It's an Indo Aryan symbol used by Hitler and the NSDAP. I truly believe National Socialism is the most successful form of fascism while it existed but it has nothing to do with what we are trying to accomplish
I believe he's making the point that it is a representation of the white race. I am simply saying that we are an explicit american organization and so draw the symbolism closer. The swastika is too wide. Let's not forget also that it has been programmed into many that it is an inherintly evil symbol. And while we do not agree with those people, it helps break the conditioning when you don't look like the stereotypical villain and still proclaim your values
It was a symbol that was used by the most widely known ethno nationalists in history. It is used currently by nationalists all around the globe. America, Japan and South America to name a few. Of course I want to live in an ethno state full of white brothers and sisters from all European ethnicities but I will stand for any people that seek self determination and freedom from the Jews
That's great. We're not using Swastikas so it's moot
A race is a larger classification of a people than a nation. There are many nations which compose a race. The White race is composed of many nations, one of those nations is America. We are centered on national identity, not racial identity as the first concept we bring to the table. Universal symbols, as you see the swastika, are thus not really at the core of our message.
Whatever. I'm not saying you should use the swastika.
Its hard to read tone in text, so I hope we're all coming across as we intend
I'm trying to deep dive into the ideology behind this organization because other than the manifesto there really isn't much substance
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Isn't much substance?
Give me a question, and I will give you an answer.
Your statement you made last sufficed for the answer I was looking for
Wym?
Gotcha, well don't hesitate to bring anything up if you're curious.