Message from @Comrade Skeltal

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2018-01-08 20:43:11 UTC  

Because when the entire chat is full of shitposters then it will never be a serious discussion

2018-01-08 20:43:23 UTC  

Its cancer

2018-01-08 20:43:33 UTC  

@Cam The fascist ideology in itself is described as having a complicated relationship regarding capitalism in having “sought to eliminate the autonomy of large-scale capitalism to the state” and supporting state having control over the economy with continued existence of private property.

2018-01-08 20:43:57 UTC  

State capitalism is a left wing theory ya know

2018-01-08 20:44:02 UTC  

Well shit

2018-01-08 20:44:04 UTC  

Trying to explain fascism to a fascist you dumb twat?

2018-01-08 20:44:15 UTC  

Gtg to work

2018-01-08 20:44:18 UTC  

Fascism is the aestheticization of politics

2018-01-08 20:44:23 UTC  

See ya

2018-01-08 20:44:45 UTC  

Have a nice day too you all

2018-01-08 20:44:51 UTC  

The way fascism works is that it takes the best of capitalism and the best of socialism and merges it into a third position for people to hold who don't want to be laissez-faire or communist.

2018-01-08 20:44:53 UTC  

And praise for war

2018-01-08 20:44:54 UTC  

Goodbye friend

2018-01-08 20:45:08 UTC  

@Cam Are you all this stupid?

2018-01-08 20:45:18 UTC  

Or you know, doesn't, because it infringes on the totality of the belief set for both ideologies

2018-01-08 20:45:33 UTC  

Capitalism isn’t an ideology, it’s a mode of production, you can’t “combine” it to make a synthesis

2018-01-08 20:45:46 UTC  

He means the liberal shit behind it

2018-01-08 20:45:49 UTC  

I hope anyway

2018-01-08 20:45:50 UTC  

^ what Kuboa said

2018-01-08 20:45:55 UTC  

Which also wouldn't make sense

2018-01-08 20:46:01 UTC  

Cause the fascists didn't employ that

2018-01-08 20:46:36 UTC  

Or well, didn't do it well

2018-01-08 20:46:45 UTC  

Seeing as how _holocaust_ e.e

2018-01-08 20:46:47 UTC  

Fascist ideology is incoherent because it lacks material analysis, hence this talk of ‘capitalism’ as some spooky ideology that causes gays to have rights or whatever

2018-01-08 20:46:57 UTC  

Lol

2018-01-08 20:47:08 UTC  

When Kuboa explains things I lol

2018-01-08 20:47:33 UTC  

Cause it's funny, but also I feel like it registers on a level with fascists so they can readily respond lol

2018-01-08 20:47:37 UTC  

Can't remember exactly how someone described it to me one time, but it was essentially following an idea of taking certain aspects of both so that you still have a market but it is regulated in a way that prevents infringing the interests of the nation and the people.

2018-01-08 20:47:51 UTC  

What if you just read the doctrine of fascism

2018-01-08 20:47:57 UTC  

Instead of having it described.

2018-01-08 20:48:11 UTC  

And then looked at the cases in which it existed

2018-01-08 20:48:20 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/400027969302691840/image.jpg

2018-01-08 20:48:29 UTC  

Rip when even the communist unironically calls people niggers :c

2018-01-08 20:48:37 UTC  

Who owns the means of production? That is the relevant question. Social democracy with a racist garnish is just capitalism

2018-01-08 20:48:46 UTC  

^

2018-01-08 20:49:09 UTC  

A hitlerite mustache as a garnish

2018-01-08 20:49:23 UTC  

Loave is just an angry commie who hates the black race, don't mind him.
Individuals own businesses and stuff like that, not the state or some vague collective.

2018-01-08 20:49:57 UTC  

Cancer

2018-01-08 20:50:31 UTC  

It's like how the economy works today, but degenerate shit or actions that would harm the people or the national interest is not allowed to be sold. That does mean no more Pornhub, but I don't find that an issue.

2018-01-08 20:52:20 UTC  

So all this outsourcing to India or China probably would be blocked by the state.
In terms of examples of it working, the only ones I can name are Italy and Germany, but I'm currently looking into the history of both to get a feel for how well it worked. Getting war'd to death doesn't count as a failure in my book. So I'd rather look into how it was pre-wartime.