Message from @azjk
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@Grayson That's what I think is causing that mindset, then. Big cities in Europe are bugmen propaganda central
That's weird. I don't know how deep or effective the indoctrination to libral thinking is in Sweden, but I have to beleive that the conversation you had with them probaly planted some kind of seed that will germinate into them changing their veiws. keep working on them.
@azjk I sure hope so. They think Italy ‘s Salvini is evil and they thought I was smoking or something!? I was almost desperate lol I was all:” look at your beautiful families: attractive blond haired handsome white families! Aren’t you said if everybody in your countries won’t look like you guys in a few generations and everybody is going to a mulatto/Brown and your culture is going to be replaced by these invaders traditions instead!?”
Those countries are altruistic to the point of self destruction it seems.
That's so sad, I don't understand how anybody can think that way.
I've found that you don't change minds over night, you just keep putting logic in front of them. If they are smart they will see the light. If they have even a glimmer of an appreciation of history, there is hope.
The danish dude in particular was like: dude what’s wrong with you!? I was like; I tell you what’s wrong with me! I don’t understand how you can sit back and watch your heritage, culture, and traditions disappear and be replaced by cultures and traditions that have no place in western civilization and in particular in northern Europe.
At least you are pushing back. Most white people wouldn't have said anything.
I said: How can you be OK with a prospect that in a few generations people in your countries will not look like your ancestors
what I don't get is in a few generations their culture won't be nearly as "progressive" as these people seem to love. When you import millions of Muslims, you will get a patriarchal, misogynist, theocratic society. All of which these ultra progressive countries are against. It boggles the mind, really.
I said, what about your music and your folklore and your holidays and your traditions and your cuisine and your religion everything is going to be replaced. Don’t you feel a sense of pride for who you are and who came before you?
" I was like; I tell you what’s wrong with me! I don’t understand how you can sit back and watch your heritage, culture, and traditions disappear and be replaced by cultures and traditions that have no place in western civilization and in particular in northern Europe." That's the hard sell approach. Most people will resist that. No one likes to be told they are wrong. It's frustrating, but killing them with kindness and the truth of facts eventually works.
They don't look back, they only look "forward", "progress" is all they care about. Tradition is old, they want the "new". Even if it will eventually destroy what they have and cherish (even if they don't realize it now).
Yeah, you have to go to emotions with people like that. Facts won't do a thing.
They need to live in a mud hut for a week.
give those countries 30 years and they *will* be living in mud huts...
and the women will be under bed sheets.
@Grayson take them on a vacation to Detroit, that'll do it. If they want to play the "culture" card drop the great society act red pill on them
Facts work, they just need time.
you gotta put some emotion with the facts though.
it binds them to their roots when balanced.
"14% cause 53% of murder" arguments ain't gonna cut it.
Well but then I have my gotcha moments when I talk to people like that. I asked them why they married other Scandinavians instead of marrying some Chinese or some Arab. Then I asked them why they are sending their kids to private schools, and why they didn’t want to stay in a cheaper hotel on the west side of Salt Lake City 🤔
questioning instead of answering is a great way to approach it. *they* get to answer those questions instead of being given the answers.
if they come to their "own" conclusions, it's much more likely to stick.
Self discovery is the best teacher.
"Your actions tell us what you actually believe, and there is no shame in that."
even if they won't admit it outwardly.
smh I knew NASA is up to no good
>NASA
>that person
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unless they were a diversity hire 🤔
Government shut down be hitting mission control hard.
Asking questions is what I've been doing recently with people, especially the younger guys I work with; they find it hard to not say "Ya know that makes a lot of sense" when you let them think about things themselves
Figures: no longer Hidden
Even in mixed ethic groups I always hit the surface level topic by saying that we should all be proud of our heritage. Then I usually break into all the great things Europeans have done (in a subtle way) and I can see the looks on their faces that they know I'm right.
Then I say something like how I like tacos. 😉
the greatness of tacos.
Asking them questions, and speaking in a calm sense always helps.
People always depict evil big bads as bald Spergs, not calm, understanding yet firm gentlemen/ladies
Table 43, in my experience with some people, doesn't make them go 'wtf I love ethnonationalism' but its definitely a big shock to them