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As far as tech measures go, the team did its job. After leaking, the offender was locked out immediately. I dont see the issue being with tech. Local leadership and phone confiscation are two pressing areas.
Are we certain he collaborated with Goldsmith?
He’s talking about Vincent VA not the Washington guy
Oh no that was Gabriel CA
Goldsmith is a retard I wouldn’t worry too much about him
He put out a call to action on our AO and it was answered
It is likely a mass dox in in the works for WA so they should plan accordingly
Might be worth switching jobs and what not
I’m working with John on that now
Goldsmith likely does collaborate with Antifa
Tyler is moving out tonight
Anybody in the lifestyle recovery chat should be careful as well since that was where the dox of the AL guy came from
Sounds like the infil has been identified and is second in command of a John brown gun club chapter
John WA should be sending it over Vincent
This is a major failure in intelligence of opposing groups
Vincent was in there
Vincent WA is second in command of the John brown gun club chapter
@Jason NY We can't have a storage of everyone's information. That is the exact thing we are trying to prevent with security measures.
Any response which involves treating everyone as guilty first and innocent never is not a viable option.
Right now, look into measures related to the server's setup, and similar tech matters to see what could be done to further defend against this.
Mason can handle camera options, John will be interviewed to provide Network options, Interview Team will be consulted for amendments to the vetting process, and I will make the necessary changes to our event planning and oversee the rest of the changes.
Yeah I realize the storage information was a very dumb idea.
So I am digging more into the doxxes it looks like some of the audio was recorded in person meetups.
Also the pictures with Neil did their membership ever overlap?
We will have to sit John down to asses the proper scope of the leaks
I’m unsure if that type of info myself
So I spoke with John since they seemed to know about the suspension and Neil WA (identified him by alias in a picture) who left months before Vincent joined. It was likely Robert WA who John kicked out when we was off suspension for being an infil. We will need to keep an eye out for any screenshots implicating Robert WA.
Robert WA knew about the suspension and Neil WA.
It would also explain why Vincent seemed to go beyond previous infiltrators as they probably evolved their tactics to evade detection.
It doesn't seem like John ever posted information openly in the channel about meetup spots, but I would ask again with some more pointed questions.
I know we don’t have any unedited footage from that long ago in our shared folder for action reports but I will see if Mason kept some of it on his end.
Mason will check his HDDs when he gets home but he says it’s unlikely.
Damn it man, I love Paul. This really sucks.
Yeah we just need to do our best to support the guys who got hit. Some people think the dox is sloppy and he has some room for plausible deniability.
There’s only one picture in there truly connecting him with PF, but it’s a side profile and there’s a shadow on his face. Could easily say it’s just someone that looks like him.
I suspect the only doxxes that will be published are WA and the Hike, possibly anything else in that one channel he was in. They need a picture to do a dox in almost all cases. I don’t think Antifa has any unpublished doxxes other than that or it would have been dumped sooner.
They may have a picture of me but my dox would be the most boring, uneventful dox ever published. “His name is _ and he lives at _ and he drives a ____.” End of dox.
One additional tip is to possibly try poisoning search results. Mix a fake identity with your real one in your state and close proximity with fake interested and real interests. In time it might push Antifa off of the first page and make their job doxxing more difficult.
I am looking to try that myself but it is just a thought.
Another thought as well. We should change how activism submissions are done I think. It is obvious that they log activism if they have an infiltrator to try and map out members locations.
Maybe DM mega links with the 4 photos to someone
Someone with rocket chat admin should check channel permission options to see if #activism can be made write-only and only read by members of photo editing team / leadership
To promote activism we can post highlights of cool photos
But we need to prevent this possible vector to profile members
Or you can have regional activism submissions channels
Keep working on ideas guys
Thanks for staying on top of this
Re. The activism channel. This has been suggested before. Might be worth another review of the idea imo.
I think we should do it before it causes an issue
we have known for a while they do this.
I will add it to the list.
As an aside I have saved all of Goldsmiths tweets where he actively calls for violent attacks on our vehicles in the area
I believe we should take action against that.
Goldsmith attemptes suicide a few years back. Also has a bunch of other weird shit in his background.
I dug a bunch up a while back, i will see if i can find it.
Ok, he is a strange one. But this was him 100%
I am in the middle of a full dox for our friend [REDACTED] right now aka Vincent WA. I'm pretty sure that's not his real name, but I may know it soon. Will get that info here when it becomes available.
Currently we know he is a member of Puget Sound Gun Club, he is a web designer. Telegram handle is [REDACTED]. I believe I have tied him to a company his mother runs. Evidence right now leads me to believe his last name is actually [REDACTED].
I’m going to DM you
Send this to Eric Striker as well he might be able to help with research
I have contact with him on telegram
Goldsmith has a tendency to tweet before he thinks as well.
He deletes tweets once he realized he has made a mistake
Such as when he outted his asset for the buzzfeed article
We’ll get in touch once we learn more. Striker will be most helpful by publishing the information on national justice once it has been gathered. Maybe public records requests as well if we find a need for them.
Got it. Unfortunately I do not have a knack for research like this.
No worries, Vincent and I are making progress.
So do we have any ideas about how antifa found the vehicle exchange and the box truck staging point at roughly the same time? It doesn’t seem like something Vincent WA would’ve been able to accomplish.
@all I need everyone to give me their telegram immediately so we can have a meeting regarding next steps. We have work to do tonight.
Main Server snapshot done.
Vetting Server snapshot pending.
Server was restored from backup.
make sure the video editing and picture editing channels are deleted if they aren;t
It doesn’t work in all cases
I think it detects browser plugins that do screenshots.
If it detected stuff like snipping tool that would be a big privacy violation which is why browsers do allow access to that
Yep, makes sense. Old people like me would just take a picture of the screen too. Can't detect that! :)
If we could detect or disable copy / paste of text it would be great. The problem with the leaks to date have been that these guys take screenshots, but they aren't keyword searchable. If those 2019 to 2020 leaks were text searchable there were low hanging fruit dox's in them.. Instead they used PDF's that ended up not being able to be OCR'd easily. I tried reading through them and it was days of effort to make sense of what was going on. And they images were extremely low quality too, the images they missed were key ones too.
Scott said he was able to automate text on it but it was very difficult even for him.
One of these times they are going to do this right and it will be bad, so we absolutely need to harden things up now with every trick we can think of. The server of course needs to be functional for the membership, but any super duper high tech things you guys can think of definitely put them out there.
Re. Scott. He only had like 40% success, I was working with him on that.
We kinda lucked out with that one.
I see. Torch seems to be less sophisticated on the tech front.
Those guys are boomers compared to you guys. We are definitely way more technically savvy and smarter than they think. This code thing is brilliant engineering IMO.
Have we gotten in touch with NJP leadership about this since they are impacted
Might be worth leveraging some of Paul’s expertise to work in planning how to setup our new infrastructure. Setting up and IDS, WAF in addition to some of the other stuff we do.
In addition to what we have here
We have powerful enemies so we need to be ready if they ever decide to compromise our infrastructure
We should change how videos are sent to Mason too. I would argue sending those over Threema is best
One improvement would be to compartmentalize the org into isolated servers with leadership being allowed in a central one. Activism photos could be uploaded via victory or in a channel on each rocket chat instance which forwards it to a central rocket server. This would limit infiltrators reach (can't see all users), and if a server is breached we don't give up all our info.
They could technically be on a single server but further protection would be on multiple servers