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Michael TX @PF-8485

As far as tech measures go, the team did its job. After leaking, the offender was locked out immediately. I dont see the issue being with tech. Local leadership and phone confiscation are two pressing areas.

Matthew MN @PF-6495

Are we certain he collaborated with Goldsmith?

Jason NY @PF-3527

He’s talking about Vincent VA not the Washington guy

Matthew MN @PF-6495

Oh no that was Gabriel CA

Matthew MN @PF-6495

Goldsmith is a retard I wouldn’t worry too much about him

Vincent TX @PF-4354

He put out a call to action on our AO and it was answered

Matthew MN @PF-6495

It is likely a mass dox in in the works for WA so they should plan accordingly

Matthew MN @PF-6495

Might be worth switching jobs and what not

Vincent TX @PF-4354

I’m working with John on that now

Matthew MN @PF-6495

Goldsmith likely does collaborate with Antifa

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Tyler is moving out tonight

Matthew MN @PF-6495

Anybody in the lifestyle recovery chat should be careful as well since that was where the dox of the AL guy came from

Matthew MN @PF-6495

Sounds like the infil has been identified and is second in command of a John brown gun club chapter

Matthew MN @PF-6495

John WA should be sending it over Vincent

Matthew MN @PF-6495

This is a major failure in intelligence of opposing groups

Matthew MN @PF-6495
Vincent TX @PF-4354

Vincent was in there

Matthew MN @PF-6495

Vincent WA is second in command of the John brown gun club chapter

Matthew MN @PF-6495
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Thomas @thomas

@Jason NY We can't have a storage of everyone's information. That is the exact thing we are trying to prevent with security measures.

Any response which involves treating everyone as guilty first and innocent never is not a viable option.

Right now, look into measures related to the server's setup, and similar tech matters to see what could be done to further defend against this.

Mason can handle camera options, John will be interviewed to provide Network options, Interview Team will be consulted for amendments to the vetting process, and I will make the necessary changes to our event planning and oversee the rest of the changes.

Jason NY @PF-3527

Yeah I realize the storage information was a very dumb idea.

Matthew MN @PF-6495

So I am digging more into the doxxes it looks like some of the audio was recorded in person meetups.

Matthew MN @PF-6495
Matthew MN @PF-6495

Also the pictures with Neil did their membership ever overlap?

Vincent TX @PF-4354

We will have to sit John down to asses the proper scope of the leaks

Vincent TX @PF-4354

I’m unsure if that type of info myself

Matthew MN @PF-6495

So I spoke with John since they seemed to know about the suspension and Neil WA (identified him by alias in a picture) who left months before Vincent joined. It was likely Robert WA who John kicked out when we was off suspension for being an infil. We will need to keep an eye out for any screenshots implicating Robert WA.

Matthew MN @PF-6495

Robert WA knew about the suspension and Neil WA.

Matthew MN @PF-6495

It would also explain why Vincent seemed to go beyond previous infiltrators as they probably evolved their tactics to evade detection.

Matthew MN @PF-6495

It doesn't seem like John ever posted information openly in the channel about meetup spots, but I would ask again with some more pointed questions.

Matthew MN @PF-6495
Jason NY @PF-3527

I know we don’t have any unedited footage from that long ago in our shared folder for action reports but I will see if Mason kept some of it on his end.

Jason NY @PF-3527

Mason will check his HDDs when he gets home but he says it’s unlikely.

Jason NY @PF-3527

Damn it man, I love Paul. This really sucks.

Matthew MN @PF-6495

Yeah we just need to do our best to support the guys who got hit. Some people think the dox is sloppy and he has some room for plausible deniability.

Jason NY @PF-3527

There’s only one picture in there truly connecting him with PF, but it’s a side profile and there’s a shadow on his face. Could easily say it’s just someone that looks like him.

Matthew MN @PF-6495

I suspect the only doxxes that will be published are WA and the Hike, possibly anything else in that one channel he was in. They need a picture to do a dox in almost all cases. I don’t think Antifa has any unpublished doxxes other than that or it would have been dumped sooner.

Jason NY @PF-3527

They may have a picture of me but my dox would be the most boring, uneventful dox ever published. “His name is _ and he lives at _ and he drives a ____.” End of dox.

Matthew MN @PF-6495

One additional tip is to possibly try poisoning search results. Mix a fake identity with your real one in your state and close proximity with fake interested and real interests. In time it might push Antifa off of the first page and make their job doxxing more difficult.

Matthew MN @PF-6495

I am looking to try that myself but it is just a thought.

Matthew MN @PF-6495

Another thought as well. We should change how activism submissions are done I think. It is obvious that they log activism if they have an infiltrator to try and map out members locations.

Matthew MN @PF-6495

Maybe DM mega links with the 4 photos to someone

Jason NY @PF-3527

Someone with rocket chat admin should check channel permission options to see if #activism can be made write-only and only read by members of photo editing team / leadership

Matthew MN @PF-6495

To promote activism we can post highlights of cool photos

Matthew MN @PF-6495

But we need to prevent this possible vector to profile members

Matthew MN @PF-6495

Or you can have regional activism submissions channels

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Keep working on ideas guys

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Thanks for staying on top of this

Benjamin WI @PF-8943

Re. The activism channel. This has been suggested before. Might be worth another review of the idea imo.

Matthew MN @PF-6495

I think we should do it before it causes an issue

Matthew MN @PF-6495

we have known for a while they do this.

Benjamin WI @PF-8943

I will add it to the list.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

As an aside I have saved all of Goldsmiths tweets where he actively calls for violent attacks on our vehicles in the area

Vincent TX @PF-4354

I believe we should take action against that.

Benjamin WI @PF-8943

Goldsmith attemptes suicide a few years back. Also has a bunch of other weird shit in his background.

Benjamin WI @PF-8943

I dug a bunch up a while back, i will see if i can find it.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Ok, he is a strange one. But this was him 100%

Vincent TX @PF-4354

I am in the middle of a full dox for our friend [REDACTED] right now aka Vincent WA. I'm pretty sure that's not his real name, but I may know it soon. Will get that info here when it becomes available.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Currently we know he is a member of Puget Sound Gun Club, he is a web designer. Telegram handle is [REDACTED]. I believe I have tied him to a company his mother runs. Evidence right now leads me to believe his last name is actually [REDACTED].

Jason NY @PF-3527

I’m going to DM you

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Yes

Matthew MN @PF-6495

Send this to Eric Striker as well he might be able to help with research

Matthew MN @PF-6495

I have contact with him on telegram

Matthew MN @PF-6495

Goldsmith has a tendency to tweet before he thinks as well.

Matthew MN @PF-6495

He deletes tweets once he realized he has made a mistake

Matthew MN @PF-6495

Such as when he outted his asset for the buzzfeed article

Jason NY @PF-3527

We’ll get in touch once we learn more. Striker will be most helpful by publishing the information on national justice once it has been gathered. Maybe public records requests as well if we find a need for them.

Matthew MN @PF-6495

Got it. Unfortunately I do not have a knack for research like this.

Jason NY @PF-3527

No worries, Vincent and I are making progress.

Jason NY @PF-3527

So do we have any ideas about how antifa found the vehicle exchange and the box truck staging point at roughly the same time? It doesn’t seem like something Vincent WA would’ve been able to accomplish.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

@all I need everyone to give me their telegram immediately so we can have a meeting regarding next steps. We have work to do tonight.

Vincent TX @PF-4354
Matthew MN @PF-6495

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Thomas @thomas

Main Server snapshot done.

Vetting Server snapshot pending.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

@Thomas Please join tele

Michael TX @PF-8485

Server was restored from backup.

Matthew MN @PF-6495

make sure the video editing and picture editing channels are deleted if they aren;t

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Done

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Yes

Matthew MN @PF-6495

It doesn’t work in all cases

Benjamin WI @PF-8943

As in doesn't work on PC or the RC app, but does in the web browser mobile version right?

Matthew MN @PF-6495

I think it detects browser plugins that do screenshots.

Matthew MN @PF-6495

If it detected stuff like snipping tool that would be a big privacy violation which is why browsers do allow access to that

Benjamin WI @PF-8943

Yep, makes sense. Old people like me would just take a picture of the screen too. Can't detect that! :)

Benjamin WI @PF-8943

If we could detect or disable copy / paste of text it would be great. The problem with the leaks to date have been that these guys take screenshots, but they aren't keyword searchable. If those 2019 to 2020 leaks were text searchable there were low hanging fruit dox's in them.. Instead they used PDF's that ended up not being able to be OCR'd easily. I tried reading through them and it was days of effort to make sense of what was going on. And they images were extremely low quality too, the images they missed were key ones too.

Matthew MN @PF-6495

Scott said he was able to automate text on it but it was very difficult even for him.

Benjamin WI @PF-8943

One of these times they are going to do this right and it will be bad, so we absolutely need to harden things up now with every trick we can think of. The server of course needs to be functional for the membership, but any super duper high tech things you guys can think of definitely put them out there.

Benjamin WI @PF-8943

Re. Scott. He only had like 40% success, I was working with him on that.

Benjamin WI @PF-8943

We kinda lucked out with that one.

Matthew MN @PF-6495

I see. Torch seems to be less sophisticated on the tech front.

Benjamin WI @PF-8943

Those guys are boomers compared to you guys. We are definitely way more technically savvy and smarter than they think. This code thing is brilliant engineering IMO.

Matthew MN @PF-6495

Have we gotten in touch with NJP leadership about this since they are impacted

Benjamin WI @PF-8943

I am not involved with that, @Thomas would know.

Matthew MN @PF-6495

Might be worth leveraging some of Paul’s expertise to work in planning how to setup our new infrastructure. Setting up and IDS, WAF in addition to some of the other stuff we do.

Matthew MN @PF-6495

In addition to what we have here

Matthew MN @PF-6495

We have powerful enemies so we need to be ready if they ever decide to compromise our infrastructure

Matthew MN @PF-6495

We should change how videos are sent to Mason too. I would argue sending those over Threema is best

Jake AR @PF-3320

Customizations:

Jake AR @PF-3320

One improvement would be to compartmentalize the org into isolated servers with leadership being allowed in a central one. Activism photos could be uploaded via victory or in a channel on each rocket chat instance which forwards it to a central rocket server. This would limit infiltrators reach (can't see all users), and if a server is breached we don't give up all our info.

Jake AR @PF-3320

They could technically be on a single server but further protection would be on multiple servers

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