(DM) Thomas & ND - John WA
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No.
Cowboy hats and coonskin hats, doesn’t get more American than that. 😏
Anyhow, I visited with Ethan and Tyler, Mrs Tyler, and Jack today. They’re all doubling down. Ethan and I went and did a banner nearby afterwards. Our network won’t let this get the better of us.
Have we pinpointed what measures of security were not implemented to cause those doxes? Social media, talking about jobs at meetings, sending home addresses over the server?
Total disregard for the infosecurity guides
We’ve even fine over it on mumble meetings
Which points in particular/
Leo, Clarke, Ethan all had public facing social media like Facebook. The following members didn’t file joindeleteme: Leo, Clarke, Ethan, Jack, Marcus, Tyler, and David did it 1 month after Vincent joined so he might be okay.
Were houses used for meetings where other locations could have sufficed? No neutral middle points if they were?
Vincent has only been to Tyler’s
We cut stencils and socialized. This was a few months after Vincent has been a member. Because he was so active and seemed ok, we really let our guard down. We’ve always operated under the guise that commies like to lay low and not do activism.
So just the one time
The guides aren't meant to just be high guard, that's the baseline.
That’s not what I implied
It's what the results imply.
I mean you yourself said he was fine and he was vetted does activism etc, and that I was just being schizophrenic when I was suspicious about him. Don’t blame me trying to say I wasn’t taking the guides seriously. We put the man through the ringer for a few months, he did weekly actions, attendee every big action, flew out to events, purchased all of our materials whenever needed. Could’ve happened to anyone.
Speaking of materials, I still am waiting on my $250 sticker order. Vincent made off with the poster order because somehow he talked Ethan into giving him them. So we have no banner stencils, no posters, and no stickers.
The task of internal NW security and guide enforcement is one I gave to you. It did not happen to anyone. It happened to you.
That is the full breadth of discussion on that matter, however.
I pushed the guides on everyone. It’s their own fault for not taking them seriously.
I stressed in many meetings the importance of being a ghost online and cleaning up your opsec. I mentioned it in so many meetings, and in person. Moving forward I’ll have them pull up their joindeleteme accounts and show me, and show me what social media they have if any. They all have agreed that they should’ve listened, apologized, and then deleted their social media and filled out joindeleteme. We’re also not letting any new guys ever go to someone’s house.
Review that, and send me your order's Order # when you can find it.
566339
Thank you.
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Decisions like that can only be made with evidence.
What do you mean
Whether or not a dox will happen is dependent upon several factors, which can be measured with evidence.
How did you get ahold of Clarke
Just like this.
You should have some questions to answer from Clarke and/or Vincent.
Do that immediately.
So he saw he was doxxed and logged in
He spoke to me via the server.
I haven’t heard from him in several days. Not very happy with him.
Not important right now.
Let me pull up the dox
The key piece of information is about the plate.
That second voice recording was when we stenciled under the bridge in Enumclaw
I need a date and an attendee list.
Vincent was wearing a wire
I need a date and an attendee list.
I think you guys still haven’t posted pictures from that.
I have asked you twice now.
September 27th, 2021
Halfway there..
Hang on
John, Charles, Clarke, Ethan, Tyler, Vincent
What happened with Charles?
Underage. Mommy emailed you.
Roger that.
Give me a full list of who knew about the license plate changes?
I instructed everyone to change their plates right away after we got back from DC
I need a list of who "everyone" is.
Can you get on mumble to talk about This
I need a list of who "everyone" is.
I sent a message on the private NW8 telegram channel
which includes all members from the PNW
I need a list.
Of names.
John, Ethan, David, Clarke, Vincent (who I’m sure I removed right away), Tyler, Jack, Leo, Frederick, Alexander, Johnny ID, Marcus, Walter, Lawrence FL
When you're done with that, I need a debrief on who Matthew WA is.
Former member. Young, outgoing spergy wignat type, I purchased his ticket for him using his full name. Not a problem.
So Vincent did, or did NOT, see the message about changing license plates?
I removed him from the channel
Did, or did not?
so unless someone on telegram can see a private Chanel they were removed from then I don’t think so
That’s what I’ve been wondering
So, no is your answer?
He did not see it.
Thank you.
Because if he could somehow hack into that channel he’d be able to know about the PNW meeting we had, and would’ve known I instructed everyone to change plates.
Implausible.
Right
Hm.
Well the guides DO say if you get doxxed change your plates.
Keep posted I may ask for more information.
Roger
Besides Christmas trees and a sobbing wife, what exonerates Ethan?
He is on every single one of our lists.
I re vetted him, went through his phone, been to his house, know where he works, know his name, I’ve been around his 1 year old and wife.
Alright. You know his personal info. Do you know anything that proves it can't be him?
He gave up his name and credit card info to get our vehicle rentals
Do you know anything that proves it can't be him?
I went through his phone and found nothing suspicious.
Idk what Antifa’s wife gives you a hug crying asking if they’re all going to be okay. It’s a bit of a stretch.
The whole breach is a stretch. It would not have been possible if it wasn't.
He’s not very tech savvy
Doesn't prove anything.
He used an Xbox 360 headset as his mumble mic
Does not prove anything.
I don’t see anything that proves him guilty
If you have any ideas please let me know
I’m sure his dox is coming out soon too
He had a public Facebook and changed it up about the same time Clarke did.
There is information in that dox which came directly from Vincent's accomplice, and that person is in the NW.
When you take all the people who saw the message about the plates, and remove those who have already been doxxed, you get:
Ethan
David
Jack
Alexander
Johnny
Marcus
Walter
Unless it can be explained how it isn't someone on that list, it is.
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