Message from @4AM_critter πŸ‰

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2018-09-08 16:46:53 UTC  

Sometimes solo is the way to go

2018-09-08 16:46:56 UTC  

Like fallout

2018-09-08 16:47:07 UTC  

>the government that denies people other healthcare options

2018-09-08 16:47:13 UTC  

US is 11th

2018-09-08 16:47:30 UTC  

Wait is Terry Davis a pedophile πŸ€”πŸ€”

2018-09-08 16:47:41 UTC  

>the healthcare system everyone is panicking over

2018-09-08 16:47:48 UTC  

which government are you talking about?

2018-09-08 16:48:02 UTC  

You're in Canada, Beemann? What do you dislike about the system there?

2018-09-08 16:48:10 UTC  

cos many people here have private insurance from the company they work for

2018-09-08 16:48:24 UTC  

not that they use it

2018-09-08 16:48:26 UTC  

I'm talking about the UK government

2018-09-08 16:48:34 UTC  

cos if you use it you have to pay the excess

2018-09-08 16:48:44 UTC  

>Canada healthcare

2018-09-08 16:48:45 UTC  

Time based system?

2018-09-08 16:48:48 UTC  

Just an international perspective. There are many ways to achieve universal health care. The most extreme is the total nationalization of the health service, as seen i Great Britain with the NHS. I think the β€œbernie” way to choose the nordic models is a poor fit for the US, we have different way to organize the public sector. My personal opinion, the USA can cheapest and most effective do this by be inspired by the Schweiz model. (I am a native nordic)

2018-09-08 16:48:49 UTC  

Yeah because that's good

2018-09-08 16:49:04 UTC  

People who use healthcare less over a period of time will get cuts if the need the help

2018-09-08 16:49:05 UTC  

And the issue with the system in Canada is that it's underfunded and overburdened

2018-09-08 16:49:20 UTC  

Most hospitals are at or over capacity

2018-09-08 16:49:22 UTC  

@Beemann you have private insurance in the UK... so... youre wrong... πŸ˜›

2018-09-08 16:49:37 UTC  

I dislike the Canadian healthcare system, it is too ineffective

2018-09-08 16:49:41 UTC  

Doesn't stop the government from denying people options

2018-09-08 16:50:08 UTC  

See: Alfie Evans

2018-09-08 16:50:27 UTC  

Wasn’t that an ethics thing?

2018-09-08 16:50:39 UTC  

oh yeah.. you mean the kid that the american docs said we can definitly help... then came over and said, no we would never have been able to help

2018-09-08 16:50:52 UTC  

I think it was somewhere else

2018-09-08 16:50:58 UTC  

So wait times are an issue?

2018-09-08 16:51:26 UTC  

But England was like β€œfuck dat shit RULE BRITTANIA OUR HEALTHCARE IS THE BEST! LET THE CHILD DIE TO PROVE A POINT!”

2018-09-08 16:51:28 UTC  

on average the wait times in the UK are 30% less than the US

2018-09-08 16:51:57 UTC  

the child was already brain dead

2018-09-08 16:51:59 UTC  

US is a larger area and hospitals are pretty far from each other

2018-09-08 16:52:22 UTC  

what does that have to do with wait times?

2018-09-08 16:52:27 UTC  

Yeah, I haven't really heard any complaints from people in the UK.

2018-09-08 16:52:33 UTC  

Ehh

2018-09-08 16:52:34 UTC  

wait times means your already at the hospital... in a waiting room

2018-09-08 16:52:42 UTC  

I hate the waits

2018-09-08 16:52:52 UTC  

It’s like there aren’t enough doctors per hospital

2018-09-08 16:52:59 UTC  

^^^^^^^^

2018-09-08 16:53:15 UTC  

It was Italian doctors who said they would help, the government said no, which shouldn't be their choice to make

2018-09-08 16:53:20 UTC  

It's that simple

2018-09-08 16:53:32 UTC  

In the UK, healthcare is still heavily mismanaged. I don't know the US system though