What comes after underpopulated.

Like that's "properly retarded DOGASS"

I mean I am seriously considering a brave new world solution of the state having children in vats because this fertility short fall is becoming a crisis

that's a dead meme innit?

Western civilization is dying because secular people ARE NOT HAVING CHILDREN

There's no fertility shortfall, silly. Immigrants have lots of kids!

Is that why? I thought it was suicide.

Sounds a bit hyperbolic

LIke that biking couple that didn't believe in "evil".

I'd have kids but I don't want to pass on all my shit genes

Immigrants don’t solve anything they just prolong the inevitable IT DOES NOT FIX THE PROBLEM @Atkins

Mainly all the diseases

so far removed from problems they don't actually believe they exist.

@Paradox that was fake news. They believed generic shit like 'everyone has good in them', but they never actually said that

the point is still they were very ignorant.

I think Western civilization had popagated laws and culture that disdisincentive long-term marriage and having children.

Divorce law and divorce courts are a big part of that. Along with that no-fault divorce stuff.

Because people just go around fucking everyone now

Why not just no get married legally?

At least in my area

i think jordan peterson has a point, suffering creates meaning. We are creating our own suffering to have meaning.

What is the incentive to get married legally now-a-days?

Steal from the old and rich

Then go find someone you actually like living off a huge NEET fund

Joint filing taxes and more secure inheritance protection.

Just teach all the children “if you don’t have kids when you’re adults you are a failure to society”

I guess insurance plans too.

Well you also have to address the high cost of raising a child.

Would those children have enough shame to care if they're a failure to society?

Coupled with costs rising with the available income.

After all, what did society do for them on that particular day?

Also, kids are rebellious beings.

https://youtu.be/EBotUWVPK-g

wew lad

Without society? Goodbye all your privileges, have fun with marauding bands of raiders

Once people really start abandoning higher education debt loads will fall, and if we can sustain the current economic boom for a little while wages will increase somewhat. But we need to have consistent steady reliable sane governance for a decade or two, and that ain't happening. We can't even keep the wheels on the bus for two god damned years.

ive played fallout

im well prepared for the apocalypse

There are many different types of society. I predict that, one day, China will own all.

How the fuck is society going to disappear because birth rates are slightly lower? Worrying about things like elderly care makes sense, but we're not approaching hokuto no ken here