Message from @Atkins

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2018-09-11 00:18:08 UTC  

"we don't want a homogeneous culture"

oh i see, 20 different cultures will totally lead to a strong nation when not a single one calls themselves American....

2018-09-11 00:19:25 UTC  

a strong 3rd world nation

2018-09-11 00:20:47 UTC  

Think this a good saying? You can tell a thousand lies, but they will never be able overwhelm truth.

2018-09-11 00:20:54 UTC  

keep us all so busy trying to feed ourselves, we don't notice the leashes.

2018-09-11 00:21:19 UTC  

holy shit

2018-09-11 00:21:32 UTC  

@Timcast TIM!!

2018-09-11 00:21:41 UTC  

Gulag!

2018-09-11 00:21:46 UTC  

i understand what tim was trying to say, but his "strength" has a big built in assumption: that everyone wants the same thing solved.

2018-09-11 00:21:50 UTC  

Gulag alert!

2018-09-11 00:25:59 UTC  

>wall with different shaped holes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/488867772110077952/amigara_fault.png

2018-09-11 00:26:01 UTC  

and why sending a bigot to one is actually a compassionate, non-violent course of action...

2018-09-11 00:27:07 UTC  

...How does the left turn everything Russian?

2018-09-11 00:27:33 UTC  

because the real russian collusion is with the left

2018-09-11 00:27:34 UTC  

You'd think they'd want to be Russia 😉

2018-09-11 00:34:30 UTC  

oh, he made a vid, that's what u guys are talking about.

2018-09-11 00:35:24 UTC  

ya, definitely a disagree with him, but only because he hasn't completely thought the idea through. It's like a house with many rooms, more rooms is fine and dandy and good, but it has to be built on a solid foundation.

2018-09-11 00:37:53 UTC  

and in the same house

2018-09-11 00:38:13 UTC  

gonna have problems if someone from a different house says one of your rooms is actually part of their house

2018-09-11 00:39:17 UTC  

There's a lot of potential for conflating race and culture when talking about the diversity argument.

2018-09-11 00:39:33 UTC  

well that just complicates my simile

2018-09-11 00:39:54 UTC  

I don't think there's much room for argument against diversity of genes (maybe excepting genes predisposing people to diseease).

2018-09-11 00:40:06 UTC  

i'm taking diversity to the most general definition.

2018-09-11 00:40:15 UTC  

But certain cultures have really shitty ideas that out to be shitcanned.

2018-09-11 00:40:19 UTC  

even if you both are talking about culture, there is a line between enjoying mexican food on some nights and making a part of town that speaks only Spanish and calls everyone white dirty Americans.

2018-09-11 00:41:38 UTC  

Is it a good idea to embrace pederasty because it's part of different cultures?

2018-09-11 00:41:44 UTC  

having a section of a city that is under sharia law is not a strong city. but forcing everyone to be Christian isn't a strength either.

2018-09-11 00:41:57 UTC  

Imagine if you have a goal, the goal is to win a math competition. One team has nothing but mathematicians. The other team has a cook, a carpenter, a telemarketer, a pizza delivery man, etc. Who do you think is more likely to reach the goal?

2018-09-11 00:43:00 UTC  

there needs to be something unifying. otherwise it doesn't matter if you have someone who can fit in the hole if they refuse to go through the hole

2018-09-11 00:43:16 UTC  

exactly. in genetics, the unifying force is life.

2018-09-11 00:43:17 UTC  

Tucker's argument wasn't that everyone needs to be the same; Tucker's argument was that there needs to be some common basis around which a functional society can be formed. Some minimum agreed upon cultural norms.

2018-09-11 00:43:34 UTC  

everyone in a country should at least speak 1 language. you can speak more but everyone needs to speak 1.

2018-09-11 00:43:41 UTC  

for example

2018-09-11 00:44:07 UTC  

well, i would say the goal changes and that's what I asked earlier. mentioning chaos in a box. What's the box?

2018-09-11 00:44:12 UTC  

In western cultures that is generally democratic participation in governance, separation of church and state, assumption of innocence, unbiased disinterested courts, rule-of-law, etc

2018-09-11 00:44:44 UTC  

Sharia law, for example, is fundamentally incompatible with western civilization.

2018-09-11 00:44:48 UTC  

an emphasis on individual rights too?

2018-09-11 00:44:53 UTC  

Not sure that's really the case anymore...and that's where ppl have a problem with diversity.

2018-09-11 00:45:12 UTC  

the west isn't very western currently

2018-09-11 00:45:18 UTC  

its like post-western