Message from @bitels

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2018-09-12 00:40:38 UTC  

Do you live in the Eu, Dan V?

2018-09-12 00:41:31 UTC  

Any chance that Eastern Europe will break away from the EU and form a sane union?

2018-09-12 00:47:43 UTC  

I do not live in the EU

2018-09-12 00:47:48 UTC  

This is my guess

2018-09-12 00:49:16 UTC  

Whatever ruling will be applied to Hingary may be used to strong arm the other countries who closed their borders which are mostly in the Eastern Block (although Italy is getting woke)

2018-09-12 00:49:28 UTC  

Poland has put up with a lot of shit over the past century. I doubt they're going to let some bureaucrats tell them how to run their country

2018-09-12 00:57:52 UTC  

If Poland gives the EU the finger think there's any chance Germany will invade them again?

2018-09-12 00:59:27 UTC  

I doubt it. Poland is a NATO member

2018-09-12 00:59:55 UTC  

so... syria is a UN member..

2018-09-12 01:01:13 UTC  

The UN is more for show than anything imo

2018-09-12 01:01:24 UTC  

They don't really do anything

2018-09-12 01:02:11 UTC  

At this time, there's no way Germany invades Poland without mass condemnation from NATO leading to possible military action

2018-09-12 01:03:26 UTC  

France, USA, UK, Italy, Holland and Turkey also all have nukes

2018-09-12 01:03:54 UTC  

Germeny does as well but it would be 1 VS 5 (I don't know how invested Turkey would be)

2018-09-12 01:05:19 UTC  

But they wouldn't call it an invasion. Wouldn't it be something like a "police action" to "liberate" Poland's goverment from the evil rightwing menace?

2018-09-12 01:05:48 UTC  

Maybe

2018-09-12 01:05:55 UTC  

I just don't think it's likely

2018-09-12 01:06:08 UTC  

Oh, a humanitarian effort to liberate the oppressed migrants being concentrated into camps.

2018-09-12 01:06:49 UTC  

Poland hasn't accepted any migrants. No need to invade Poland if there are no camps within their borders

2018-09-12 01:07:57 UTC  

Well, it's Germany so they could go through Poland and then Slovakia to get to Hungary. To liberate those oppressed migrants being concentrated into camps.

2018-09-12 01:13:46 UTC  

> "liberate" Poland's goverment from the evil rightwing menace?
democratically elected "menace" 🙃

2018-09-12 01:17:01 UTC  

Never underestimate stupid people in large numbers.

2018-09-12 01:17:31 UTC  

Also, something something direct democracy is the tyranny of the majority or something like that.

2018-09-12 01:18:50 UTC  

But once again- lets say it will go thru EU parliament, but then it have go thru council

2018-09-12 01:18:57 UTC  

and that will be not so easy

2018-09-12 01:19:08 UTC  

"The European Council - which comprises all heads of the 27-member states including Hungary - is then required to act "by unanimity" to determine the "existence of a serious and persistent breach" by a member state, and carry out sanctions."

2018-09-12 01:19:22 UTC  

i will be shocked if rest of v4 countries will not block it

2018-09-12 01:20:24 UTC  

So Hungary would have to vote that it is in serious and persistent breach?

2018-09-12 01:21:00 UTC  

Hungary doesnt vote, but EU would still somehow convince Slovakia, Czech and Poland to vote against Hungary

2018-09-12 01:21:06 UTC  

i dont think it is likely

2018-09-12 01:22:15 UTC  

even if Slovakia and Czech Republic will agree to that, i highly doubt Poland will do that

2018-09-12 01:22:42 UTC  

until EU will wait year for next polish election, and then hope ruling party will change

2018-09-12 01:34:45 UTC  

>Germany invade Poland
With what?

2018-09-12 01:41:31 UTC  

The EU army

2018-09-12 01:41:44 UTC  

They have an army?

2018-09-12 01:43:26 UTC  

They're trying to get one

2018-09-12 01:45:31 UTC  

So Poland and Hungary already signed?

2018-09-12 01:46:02 UTC  

I wonder what would happen if those soliders were activated to enforce EU mandates on their own soil.

2018-09-12 01:47:12 UTC  

🤔

2018-09-12 01:51:03 UTC  

I don't think there's any command authority in the current proposal. It's more information sharing and standardization.