Message from @4AM_critter 🐉

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2018-09-17 00:21:20 UTC  

You can see it in the media's treatment of antifa already

2018-09-17 00:21:39 UTC  

Yeah, but many people are ignorant of the truth still.

2018-09-17 00:21:41 UTC  

I am of the belief, USA could benefit from McCarthyism 2.0

2018-09-17 00:21:46 UTC  

You can see it in the media already in how they treat south africa

2018-09-17 00:21:46 UTC  

Even if the Antifa are going around hurting people.

2018-09-17 00:22:13 UTC  

I won't got that far 4am.

2018-09-17 00:22:18 UTC  

I will not falsely accuse people.

2018-09-17 00:22:41 UTC  

@Dusty Morgan You do know the center left covered for the terrorists inthe 70s, right?

2018-09-17 00:22:53 UTC  

They did Pratel? The hell?

2018-09-17 00:22:54 UTC  

Haven't played BF4 in years what do

2018-09-17 00:22:56 UTC  

What is wrong with them.

2018-09-17 00:23:08 UTC  

How do you think they got jobs at unis?

2018-09-17 00:23:21 UTC  

*Sighs.* Socialism is like a freaking plague.

2018-09-17 00:23:36 UTC  

I had to find out about how bad the left was through other means, they don't teach about the left wing terrorism anywhere in schools

2018-09-17 00:23:41 UTC  

We should just outright ban socialism like we ban nazism.

2018-09-17 00:23:53 UTC  

we don't ban nazism

2018-09-17 00:23:53 UTC  

Ban socialist political parties.

2018-09-17 00:23:57 UTC  

Oh we don't?

2018-09-17 00:23:59 UTC  

I thought we did.

2018-09-17 00:24:03 UTC  

nope

2018-09-17 00:24:59 UTC  

@Dusty Morgan i think your perception of McCarthy is skewed.

2018-09-17 00:25:02 UTC  

Nope. The us has a real communist party...and a real nazi party.

2018-09-17 00:25:09 UTC  

That's the price of freedom.

2018-09-17 00:25:32 UTC  

```There are lots of other things Trump can do. ```
Yes, delete his Twitter Account and move to Minds and Gab would be a start.

2018-09-17 00:25:37 UTC  

I don't want to ban them. I want them to self proclaim so I know who they are.

2018-09-17 00:25:52 UTC  

We do a pretty good job of educating the normies as to why nazism and fascism are bad, but we do a really, really shitty job of educating people as to why communism and totalitarian socialism are bad.

2018-09-17 00:26:11 UTC  

No, we need to expose those ideas and show them how terrible they are. Freedom of speech is an underrated value in the west.

2018-09-17 00:26:17 UTC  

^

2018-09-17 00:26:25 UTC  

No exceptions to freedom of speech.

2018-09-17 00:26:28 UTC  

Raise your hand if you were taught about the holodomor or Stalin's purges.

2018-09-17 00:27:04 UTC  

@devpav *Mark, that violence is just pushing the old center-left further toward Trump.*
Sadly i don't think this is often true, most center libs will quietly dislike their own but still vote for them, it varies based off demographics and whatnot id assume.

2018-09-17 00:27:15 UTC  

The only one that you really can argue for are the ones *actually* implied by the paradox of tolerance. Which has to deal not with "tolerance" in the modern sense of the word but in things like those that would kill off ideas like freedom of speech.

2018-09-17 00:27:33 UTC  

Ottobon, Exactly.

2018-09-17 00:27:33 UTC  

I mean Solzhenitsyn is not ten years dead and we have university students praising gulags for being humane.

2018-09-17 00:27:41 UTC  

if you live in a big city and are strongly classical liberal you are unlikely to vote republican (specifically someone firmly oldschool right like trump) regardless

2018-09-17 00:28:12 UTC  

The only people invoking the paradox of tolerance in 2018 are authoritarian leftists.

2018-09-17 00:28:50 UTC  

At this point yes.

2018-09-17 00:28:53 UTC  

i think a good argument could be made, it would help ALOT if there was a voice for more center left to call out their further left elements, but it gets into the cultural problem we currently suffer where most people don't easily identify when the left is too far left (they may on personal level but can't usually word it/feel ability to speak out)

2018-09-17 00:28:55 UTC  

They don't understand it.

2018-09-17 00:29:00 UTC  

Well, I guess it's being invoked implicitly by anyone advocating for physical removal of commies.