Message from @Dr.Wol

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2018-09-24 10:50:49 UTC  

2018

2018-09-24 10:51:04 UTC  

Fighting terrorism with the right words

2018-09-24 10:51:08 UTC  

2018-09-24 10:53:06 UTC  

The word “caliphate” gives false legitimacy as it is not a state, and should be replaced with “Daesh-held territory” it advises. It also warns care over using words such as “jihad”, “jihadi”, and “jihadi bride” which often ignore the complex religious meanings of jihad. “If reporting insists on its usage, ensure it is distinguished as ‘violent jihad’,” it states.

2018-09-24 10:53:25 UTC  

Tfw not participating in non violent jihad

2018-09-24 10:53:29 UTC  

😄

2018-09-24 10:53:52 UTC  

Thats like the alt rights non violent ethnic cleansing meme

2018-09-24 10:55:07 UTC  

This is such a postmodernish aproach

2018-09-24 10:55:10 UTC  

Yikes

2018-09-24 11:02:49 UTC  

🤦

2018-09-24 11:15:06 UTC  

well, thing is, if we don't do something now, we loose our chance for a non violent approach

2018-09-24 11:16:21 UTC  

considering jihadists want us all dead, we're already past that point

2018-09-24 11:16:37 UTC  

now now Zutt, I like Daesh Held Territory..only because it reminds me of the Kurdish song that made fun of ISIS

2018-09-24 11:16:51 UTC  

@Dr.Wol they don't kill us (yet), so there is still hope

2018-09-24 11:16:54 UTC  

we could deport them

2018-09-24 11:17:14 UTC  

something something Trucks of peace

2018-09-24 11:17:58 UTC  

True and its happening on a regular basis every couple of weeks or months. But it is still possible to round them up, put them in a C130 and bring them over to where they came from

2018-09-24 11:19:20 UTC  

possible, sure

Will it be done, the past has a poor track record in Europe

2018-09-24 11:19:55 UTC  

No, because our politicians are in female-mother mode, who are protecting foreign people more than the indiginous people

2018-09-24 11:20:31 UTC  

that too

2018-09-24 11:21:01 UTC  

When they tell the population "this is not a time for hate, we must not be racist", after some migrants kill an indiginous person, things are totally fucked up

2018-09-24 11:21:24 UTC  

but in Europe there have been many-a cases where they declared some people are set for deportation, and then pardonned them say "Well, they've been here for 4-5 years, they're slowly integrating and learning the language, so lets just keep them here"

2018-09-24 11:22:11 UTC  

i agree with u guys, but... i think its the wrong way to approach these issues (when talking to people you or i would dissagree with, i mean)
i am interested in how this could work, hypothetically,
so muslims in the west, how should they act? how should they adapt to the culture? should they adapt? why? why not?
there are some things in islamic culture that are opposed to values in the western culture, like the praying, and the views on women and minorities, and well... enlightenment values really, seperating religion from state, respecting other religions worldviews etc...

2018-09-24 11:23:00 UTC  

Aghost have you heard the old saying ?

2018-09-24 11:23:24 UTC  

```there are some things in islamic culture that are opposed to values in the western culture, ```
No, its everything!
There is no common ground with Muslims. THAT is the Problem.

2018-09-24 11:23:24 UTC  

When in Rome ......

2018-09-24 11:23:50 UTC  

Act as the Romans do

2018-09-24 11:23:58 UTC  

@Aghost You agree that Rape is a very very bad thing and should be punished, right?

2018-09-24 11:24:53 UTC  

The thing is most of moslims i know are well adapted

2018-09-24 11:25:07 UTC  

But you need to clamp down on the extremists

2018-09-24 11:25:12 UTC  

Or it spreads

2018-09-24 11:25:24 UTC  

As it is spreading rn

2018-09-24 11:25:36 UTC  

@Stefan Payne yeah, i already told you, i agree with u guys' position :P

2018-09-24 11:25:50 UTC  

```The thing is most of moslims i know are well adapted```
Then they are hypocrites and not real muslims.

2018-09-24 11:26:03 UTC  

Yep

2018-09-24 11:26:06 UTC  

in english: Should be Converted to Christianity as the true religion.

2018-09-24 11:26:11 UTC  

As are the Christians

2018-09-24 11:26:13 UTC  

they see islamic law above the law of their "host" country lets say

2018-09-24 11:26:43 UTC  

The issue is generalisation,

Theres plenty that are well adjusted, but those reject muslim culture and the quran in big pieces

And those are used as an example of why we should just let the dangerous ones walk free cuz "See its not their religion"

completely ignoring that those people abandoned large chunks of their religion

2018-09-24 11:26:52 UTC  

Most ppl arent fundamentalist believers