think they did that with the Abrams or something at one point

we're still using these things

good old A-10

a literal gun with wings

we are still retrofitting them

and they are still really very good

its not a good CAS airframe unless it can stall itself by firing it main gun

:- D

Anyway, less than $2bn dollars to do the wing replacement program

Jesus okay so I’m still typing. I’m 10 minutes in and that reading off of laughing at trump seems to be from the representation that in the media he’s doing like shit.

So maybe they’re laughing at the media not the president

all of the current airframe designs mostly flown today are all 60-80s designs no?

Still, bye again

Or maybe they're laughing with the president.

lol

@Grenade123 the laws of physics didn't much change since the '60s

Now, there are exceptions like the F-22

which is not inherently stable, and relies on thrust vectoring

no, but the tech has

The thing is, much like in software, the urge to adopt technologies for the sake of it is among the worst instincts we have

only so much you can do retrofitting

au contraire

you can retrofit ANYTHING

to do ANYTHING

adopting tech is not the problem, its defeating enemy tech that is the problem

retrofits can always be as good as new aircraft

you can, but not before becomes too costly and unstable

Well

that's unlikely if you're retrofitting the same class of aircraft

depends on what you need to retrofit

I mean, computational equipment is not that large

laws of physics hasn't changed much since the 40's, i don't see retorfitted spitfires flying around

if that's what you're adding, then it's not a big deal

The spitfire class is now irrelevant

because it was largely concerned with addressing aircraft which were similar to it

we currently have aircraft which are substantially similar in capability to the competing ones, if slightly inferior in some subset of characteristics

do we? what do we have to fight the new russian jets toe to toe?

22 can't hold its own in a straight up fight

its not designed to either

ask yourself why the Su-34 and Su-35S look so similar

and look substantially similar to the Su-30