Message from @Timcast

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2018-09-27 01:53:37 UTC  

rock>prog rock

2018-09-27 01:54:30 UTC  

good stuff is good stuff

2018-09-27 01:55:02 UTC  

genre doesn't matter

2018-09-27 01:56:16 UTC  

wtf ^

2018-09-27 01:56:22 UTC  

@Beemann Bandcamp, I wish even more artists published there. (though most of the ones I listen to do, which is great)

2018-09-27 01:56:39 UTC  

thats some brainwashing tim

2018-09-27 01:57:23 UTC  

Is it wrong?

2018-09-27 01:58:00 UTC  

still watching 1/2 way done

2018-09-27 01:58:33 UTC  

radical propaganda

2018-09-27 01:58:49 UTC  

hard to say if hes not wrong or not

2018-09-27 01:59:07 UTC  

but i have to ask are you still alive ?

2018-09-27 01:59:47 UTC  

Hmm, interesting.

2018-09-27 02:00:24 UTC  

>status quo on the 4th
lame

2018-09-27 02:00:27 UTC  

the 4th amendment constantly gets infringed upon by technicalities

2018-09-27 02:00:47 UTC  

Honestly I agree that kavanagh was right in his ruling

2018-09-27 02:00:56 UTC  

But I think we need to reform how it works

2018-09-27 02:01:26 UTC  

I think this man takes this differently than he ought to, yeah. The courts have not, and do not, see collection of your data from third parties you have entrusted it to be a "search".

2018-09-27 02:01:43 UTC  

Nor do they consider looking at those data to be a "search", and that is the contention.

2018-09-27 02:01:48 UTC  

It should still be considered your property even if it's held by a 3rd party

2018-09-27 02:02:04 UTC  

I think so too, so maybe this is one of those things Congress should be getting off of their asses to do.

2018-09-27 02:03:52 UTC  

Then again, it is difficult to draw the line, because law enforcement can observe you in public. When does looking at things you have disclosed to third parties stop being an observation of a public space, and start being an infringement upon private space?

2018-09-27 02:04:39 UTC  

so regarding the Kavanaugh degeneracy shit, I wonder what these people thought about the Hillary Clinton Spirit Cooking stories that were floating around a few years ago

2018-09-27 02:04:40 UTC  

Though I think that is simpler in some cases, especially when it involves the government _ordering_ people to allow them to install listening devices within the networks, which seems as straightforward as them invading the facilities by force, without specific warrant.

2018-09-27 02:04:48 UTC  

I bet we'll find the bar mysteriously lowered for dumb bullshit

2018-09-27 02:07:34 UTC  

theres also the issue of companies collecting data secretly

2018-09-27 02:07:38 UTC  

which never gets acted upon

2018-09-27 02:07:53 UTC  

Yeah, I mean...

2018-09-27 02:08:01 UTC  

There are several slippery slopes here.

2018-09-27 02:08:25 UTC  

If your utterances remain your property even when you place them in my custody, then surely you can "get them back"?

2018-09-27 02:08:41 UTC  

i wouldn't call it reasonable. The third party thing has some merit.

2018-09-27 02:08:43 UTC  

what if they're written down on notes I took, do you own the paper?

2018-09-27 02:09:26 UTC  

When the police search for what _you_ have said by invading _my_ property, have they searched _your_ property, or _mine_?

2018-09-27 02:09:51 UTC  

yours.

2018-09-27 02:10:06 UTC  

(under this system we propose, whereby your data remains yours even when shared with third parties)

2018-09-27 02:10:28 UTC  

oh

2018-09-27 02:10:36 UTC  

How much _"your data"_ are records of _you_ having visited or used resources on _my_ site?

2018-09-27 02:10:41 UTC  

not paying attention to that, doesn't make sense.

2018-09-27 02:10:53 UTC  

possession is 9/10...

2018-09-27 02:11:46 UTC  

I would say they're my records, in that case.