Message from @Undead Mockingbird

Discord ID: 496775863652843520


2018-10-02 20:05:30 UTC  

Actually, you make a good point.

2018-10-02 20:05:49 UTC  

Also, I keep telling people that they shouldn't stop using Google, etc. if they really want to boycott them.

2018-10-02 20:06:06 UTC  

Keep using the free portion and never hand them a dime, i.e. block all ads, do not track.

2018-10-02 20:06:50 UTC  

But DO use their free services, code, libraries, apps, and so forth. It's like the difference between boycotting a restaurant by no longer eating there and to keep going there for the free bread sticks - but then just leaving.

2018-10-02 20:07:29 UTC  

hmm i can see that as a tactic, the problem is they get access to your information

2018-10-02 20:07:33 UTC  

Styxhexenhammer says that's what he does with Facebook, just link people to his non-soylent social media presences.

2018-10-02 20:07:37 UTC  

from what you do store on them

2018-10-02 20:07:48 UTC  

and then they can still sell that

2018-10-02 20:07:49 UTC  

Right. That's why I said you should have adblockers and tracking disablers.

2018-10-02 20:08:02 UTC  

But, you should probably have those anyway.

2018-10-02 20:08:07 UTC  

if you are logged in to use a google service

2018-10-02 20:08:10 UTC  

they know its you

2018-10-02 20:08:19 UTC  

no matter which blocking software you use

2018-10-02 20:08:35 UTC  

which is why you dont log into social media while doing illegal shit behind a VPN

2018-10-02 20:08:39 UTC  

Anonymity is a sham unless you put a 100% effort into it

2018-10-02 20:08:48 UTC  

Right, but you don't necessarily have to give them your data. You make a good point, because they now require phone numbers for sign up, but you can use burner numbers.

2018-10-02 20:08:57 UTC  

if you log in to a session behind a VPN, they can tell its you

2018-10-02 20:09:19 UTC  

Some extensions even go further and mass click every add that your browser encounters, without displaying them, to mess up their analytics.

2018-10-02 20:09:52 UTC  

the only way i can see your method working in the end, is if you encrypt all your data before you share it with google

2018-10-02 20:09:55 UTC  

@>Cytos, de lieve goede synth Right. You can't associate anything useful to your account then.

2018-10-02 20:09:59 UTC  

>not adblocking on principle

2018-10-02 20:10:02 UTC  

so all they have is a large uninterpretable chunk of data

2018-10-02 20:10:18 UTC  

The adblockers that fake clicks are hard to get updates for

2018-10-02 20:10:18 UTC  

@♓♏♋ Whitelist sites you want to support.

2018-10-02 20:10:33 UTC  

but i dont think you can do that with all the applications they provide.. like calc is literally online excel

2018-10-02 20:10:40 UTC  

no way to encrypt your stuff from google in that

2018-10-02 20:10:54 UTC  

or gmail, unles you manage to get everyone that ever mails you to play along

2018-10-02 20:11:00 UTC  

>not intentionall creating an entirely fake profile with fake friends and interests to mislead the data mining algorithms

2018-10-02 20:11:14 UTC  

Yes, there are limitations to that.

2018-10-02 20:11:17 UTC  

My Facebook is full of forum friends I'll never meet IRL

2018-10-02 20:11:25 UTC  

the problem with creating a fake profile is that they can still track habits

2018-10-02 20:11:56 UTC  

But, I have throwaway Google accounts just for the storage space from Google Drive, for example, or I use YouTube for streaming. I do not see what data they get from me, while I am using their bandwidth.

2018-10-02 20:11:58 UTC  

its not enough for a court of law, but if they notice person A and B are never online at the same time, but do do all the same things..

2018-10-02 20:12:06 UTC  

they can add that shit together automatically

2018-10-02 20:12:31 UTC  

i stoped using chrome a while ago

2018-10-02 20:12:36 UTC  

that shit si a spy program

2018-10-02 20:12:38 UTC  

Right. There have been cases in which such similar correlations have been used.

2018-10-02 20:13:14 UTC  

the google account i am using for this discord is my account number 200 or something lol

2018-10-02 20:13:23 UTC  

Anyway: What I meant is that there might be ways to still use what these companies provide for free, while avoiding to give them anything of value. That's all I'm saying.

2018-10-02 20:13:53 UTC  

And, of course they are trying to minimize that as far as possible.