Message from @Inquisition

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2018-10-06 02:12:04 UTC  

The overwhelming majority of responsibility for shitty laws falls on those who wrote them, not those who interpreted conflicts after the fact.

2018-10-06 02:12:15 UTC  

Also one of the times NSA shit was struck down was because the claimants couldn't prove they specifically were targeted

2018-10-06 02:12:22 UTC  

Sorry anti NSA shit

2018-10-06 02:12:29 UTC  

Marriage is two things: a contract and a social relation

2018-10-06 02:12:45 UTC  

So basically because the claimants couldn't prove they specifically were being surveilled, rampant surveillance could continue

2018-10-06 02:13:08 UTC  

And they couldn't prove that because the documents were classified

2018-10-06 02:13:10 UTC  

that it?

2018-10-06 02:13:53 UTC  

So because the government made private data classified as part of a vast information trolling network, it wasn't possible to challenge the government on a 4th amendment violation

2018-10-06 02:14:07 UTC  

So again, it doesn't really boil down to scotus, it boils down to the public

2018-10-06 02:14:23 UTC  

And whether they are willing to do their duty to uphold the constitution

2018-10-06 02:14:36 UTC  

Would we be better off if SCOTUS was openly partisan and activist? Would you rather have laws written by 9 unelected judges who serve for live?

2018-10-06 02:14:36 UTC  

revolution?

2018-10-06 02:14:58 UTC  

>would it be better if it was even further from what it should be?
Wew

2018-10-06 02:15:00 UTC  

partisan judges are a no no

2018-10-06 02:15:09 UTC  

Yeah, exactly.

2018-10-06 02:15:19 UTC  

>it could be worse
Isn't an argument

2018-10-06 02:15:38 UTC  

Well, it actually is worse, all over the world.

2018-10-06 02:15:47 UTC  

Anything you could think of could potentially be worse

2018-10-06 02:15:49 UTC  

>It could be the UK
is terrifying

2018-10-06 02:16:00 UTC  

If you want SCOTUS to strike down laws that do not violate the constitution or precedent, you're asking for them to be activists.

2018-10-06 02:16:01 UTC  

I thought justices were partisan as a matter of course.

2018-10-06 02:16:10 UTC  

They do violate the constitution

2018-10-06 02:16:16 UTC  

After all, you've got D-appointed judges, and R-appointed judges.

2018-10-06 02:16:25 UTC  

Nothing I can think of can be worse.

2018-10-06 02:16:30 UTC  

And the Patriot Act does not violate the constitution in the opinion of the 9 people appointed specifically to determine that.

2018-10-06 02:16:30 UTC  

You wouldn't appoint judges who wouldn't see things the way you do.

2018-10-06 02:16:47 UTC  

Circular argument

2018-10-06 02:16:51 UTC  

It's a shitty law. I want it gone. But SCOTUS waving a magic wand is NOT how I want it gone.

2018-10-06 02:17:07 UTC  

>scotus works because scotus says they've done this correctly

2018-10-06 02:17:22 UTC  

they arent technically R or D but can lean left or right

2018-10-06 02:17:23 UTC  

If they haven't done it correctly then they can be impeached.

2018-10-06 02:17:30 UTC  

Only takes 60 senators.

2018-10-06 02:17:35 UTC  

And they haven't been, hm

2018-10-06 02:17:55 UTC  

It's almost like consensus within the system is more important than the constitution

2018-10-06 02:18:06 UTC  

Remember the purpose of 2a?

2018-10-06 02:18:10 UTC  

I mean we SHOULD have teh Legislature do its FUCKING JOB

2018-10-06 02:18:15 UTC  

.....wow, so the earth is flat huh?

2018-10-06 02:18:31 UTC  

nah its a dodecahydron

2018-10-06 02:18:33 UTC  

shocking.

2018-10-06 02:18:44 UTC  

It's almost like the legislature is not doing what it's supposed to be doing and offloading all responsibility onto SCOTUS and the bureaucracy.

2018-10-06 02:18:59 UTC  

No, the world is a Torus. Maps are rectangular for a reason