you can go there and work and live out your days

but you'll never become a citizen

as only chinese people can be citizens of china

Blue collar labor I understand in moderation. There are solutions for that too without being browned out of existence.

I like China...specifically I LOVE Hong Kong model...and Singapore model...

Or Japan, where you MUST live there a long time and give up your other citizenship and fully integrate

i like the chinese way better

living somewhere a long time shouldn't entitle you to citizenship

If you are productive and legally compliant I think it is something that someone can try to qualify for if they want.

Citizenship is marriage to a country in some sense

If you never marry your girl, she will move on or do stuff on the side

a non european will never love a european country like an actual european can

Otherwise, you are doing a UAE kind of model

also in chink land even marriage doesn't get you citizenship

which is also good

@TheSlavPill Ayaan Hirsi Ali loves the Netherlands more than the Current PM ever will

she still has to go back though

No marriage shouldn't get you citizenship

You cant even get citizenship by marriage in Canada or the USA I don't think

Just the equivalent of green card

yeah but just a few years later you can apply for citizenship

yeah, after getting vetted to the equivalent of getting a secret clearance for permanent residency in Canada

Well, at least when I immigrated

Don't know what its like under Trudeau

Ayaan Hirsi Ali isn't Dutch. Can't ever become Dutch. So yes, she has to go back.

i would maybe allow her to live out her days if she were useful

like in china

Sure, if she doesn't procreate

maybe a living and working permit

yeah ofc

Hey wb @Slav no I was just saying that she loves the Netherlands more than cucks there do

well she loves what she thinks are the netherlands

like Rutte or whatever his name is

Truth, that's because Western Europeans are the biggest cucks this side of Venus.

a multicultural environment or something

Spoken like a true Slav, @Slav lol

that's why only 15% of dutch people would fight for the netherlands

Honestly, if Western Europeans are ok with being displaced - that's ok with me. Same goes for white Americans and anyone else. Everyone should pick their path.

because in the end what is it? a country that values dutch and random nonwhites the same

@TheSlavPill yeah 15% is way too low, ridiculous...I like netherlands sense of commerce and freedom...wonderful

And no will to fight.

You'll find one follows the other.

how many of those 15% lied too