Message from @The Enlightened Shepherd

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2017-03-11 21:09:51 UTC  

they have no purpose so they just go around fucking with people

2017-03-11 21:10:15 UTC  

Someone has to keep the rooskies honest. God knows they won't by themselves.

2017-03-11 21:11:19 UTC  

Russian policy making is entirely sourced from philosophy of intelligence-security apparatus

2017-03-11 21:11:29 UTC  

All cold and ruthless calculation

2017-03-11 21:11:50 UTC  

So that's there is an iron-clad reason to keep nato around.

2017-03-11 21:11:54 UTC  

With power and it's preservance as main ideal.

2017-03-11 21:13:06 UTC  

"So that's there is an iron-clad reason to keep nato around." yes, because you wish to be occupied by nato rather than russia

2017-03-11 21:13:10 UTC  

and that's ok i guess

2017-03-11 21:13:15 UTC  

people are satisfied with nato occupation

2017-03-11 21:13:30 UTC  

to some it works good, like Slovakia and Poland, they have a lot of manouvering space

2017-03-11 21:13:38 UTC  

Iceland or Norway on the other hand, much less

2017-03-11 21:14:25 UTC  

Nobody in any nato country thinks of it as an occupation. In WE, it's mostly thought of as outsourcing defense costs to the yanks.

2017-03-11 21:14:41 UTC  

@Jossi minorities always tend to be left wing, even if they were traditionalists at home

2017-03-11 21:15:38 UTC  

@Kekkonen Defence is rather elaborate phenomenon today and includes spying, propaganda, election meddling, draconic laws etc

2017-03-11 21:16:53 UTC  

progs are cynically using the russia threat too

2017-03-11 21:17:00 UTC  

And yet I prefer Donald Trump - or even bloody Hussein Obama - as the one doing it over uncle Vanja. America has been really poor preforming on the camps and disappearances in the night department.

2017-03-11 21:17:34 UTC  

like, they scream how terror attacks by muslims are ok, and how paedophillia is nice, but they use russia threat to spark "patriotism" and "masculinity" which they otherwise ridicule by mobilizing naive men who they consider cannon fodder into reserves

2017-03-11 21:18:26 UTC  

like we'll show how tought were are against Russia, now excuse me while i remove my butt plug

2017-03-11 21:18:57 UTC  

Russians certainly have their issues

2017-03-11 21:19:12 UTC  

Seriously, except for some Washington deep state posturing, like McCain, nobody does that. And largely, nobody cares.

2017-03-11 21:19:20 UTC  

Even we in the Balkans, the most sloppy people in the world, consider Russians to be exceptionally sloppy, careless and crude

2017-03-11 21:19:43 UTC  

it's rather strange actually, how they don't lack good engineers and scientists

2017-03-11 21:20:12 UTC  

But on the other hand display this strange sort of carelessness in some departments (like air traffic safety for example)

2017-03-11 21:20:38 UTC  

They are like the chinese - nothing wrong with the basic genetic material, but a culture so dysfunctional they can't but fail at every opportunity.

2017-03-11 21:21:07 UTC  

"Seriously, except for some Washington deep state posturing, like McCain, nobody does that. And largely, nobody cares." yeah they do. In France they formed national guard, in Sweden they had couple of such campaigns of muscle flexing, which is almost a parody considering how much Swedes force this gay, feminized narrative

2017-03-11 21:21:18 UTC  

I disagree there

2017-03-11 21:21:34 UTC  

Chinese and Russian never fail. Chinese are in particular famed for stability

2017-03-11 21:21:47 UTC  

France? Sweden? Those global powers? How would you even notice if they flexed?

2017-03-11 21:22:00 UTC  

Russia is perfectly functional. I'm talking about how they appearto foreigners, and some things that just stand out

2017-03-11 21:22:27 UTC  

Tai ping. Boxing rebellion. The long march. Yeah, they are the byword for stability, the chicks.

2017-03-11 21:22:36 UTC  

Over here, Russian crudeness and sloppiness are the most apparent

2017-03-11 21:23:14 UTC  

What's problem with Boxing rebellion. It's Chinese rebelling against foreigners

2017-03-11 21:23:59 UTC  

Pity they took a detour of killing a few mills of their compatriots in the process. Oh well, accidents happen.

2017-03-11 21:24:08 UTC  

Personally, I would rely on Russia for cooperaton, support etc, but would never allow them to *run* things. They can be rather careless

2017-03-11 21:24:45 UTC  

I kinda agree. But you need the muscle to _not allaw_ them. Thus nato.

2017-03-11 21:24:53 UTC  

Again, Russia has been ruled from the center for centuries. Rulers are raised there not to be too empathic

2017-03-11 21:25:13 UTC  

NATO is causing problems everywhere

2017-03-11 21:25:19 UTC  

^^

2017-03-11 21:25:27 UTC  

I'd rather loose my independent but keep my people

2017-03-11 21:25:34 UTC  

i'd agree shep

2017-03-11 21:25:42 UTC  

Than have fake *independence8 and be a EU/NATO bus station