Message from @tritrium

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2018-10-10 06:25:57 UTC  

especially when there were insurrections and racial civil wars that erupted

2018-10-10 06:26:18 UTC  

oh yeah i know about that

2018-10-10 06:28:19 UTC  

like the massacre of sampit, where maduranese were persecuted by borneo-born dayaks; Ambon civil war, where christians and muslims fought a bloody civil war; Rise of GAM (aceh freedom movement); rise of OPM (free papua organisation); etc.

2018-10-10 06:29:20 UTC  

and the advent of 9/11 also resulted in the rise of wahhabists and religious extremists who were heavily suppressed during the authoritarian regime

2018-10-10 06:29:46 UTC  

nice

2018-10-10 06:30:03 UTC  

we got a party here now called "islam"

2018-10-10 06:30:12 UTC  

and everyone was hysterical about it when it popped up

2018-10-10 06:30:38 UTC  

eh.... we've always had an islamic party in Indonesia. heck, even before it was called Indonesia

2018-10-10 06:30:45 UTC  

We dont

2018-10-10 06:30:49 UTC  

😄

2018-10-10 06:30:54 UTC  

when it was still called Dutch East Indies

2018-10-10 06:31:54 UTC  

the "conservative" islamists party had mostly been moderate here

2018-10-10 06:32:54 UTC  

Unlike our friend at the party "islam"

2018-10-10 06:33:11 UTC  

heck, they literally just banned a wahhabist movement.

2018-10-10 06:34:07 UTC  

yeah this islam party we got here is not wahabist

2018-10-10 06:34:43 UTC  

I always compare it to what the christian party wouldve said 2-300 years ago

2018-10-10 06:35:13 UTC  

heck, islam in Indonesia is a rather unique blend of islam teachings and hindu-buddhist influences

2018-10-10 06:36:18 UTC  

since the islamic saints in Indonesia was told to have used shadow puppet theatre and epic drawings to spread their religion

2018-10-10 06:37:51 UTC  

heck, most muslim here never thought of visiting buddhist or hindu temples of old as something sacrilegious

2018-10-10 06:38:05 UTC  

they just think of it as it's part of the culture

2018-10-10 06:40:12 UTC  

over here theyre becoming more conservative then certain countries in the middle east are, at least when it comes to day to day life.

2018-10-10 06:40:19 UTC  

Which i find strange

2018-10-10 06:41:04 UTC  

or maybe its not that strange given what has been done in the past 30 years

2018-10-10 06:43:29 UTC  

tbh, I was extremely worried when tim posted the anti-islam persecution by the CCP since wow.... if that made a national news here... I can only feel dread on the consequences

2018-10-10 06:44:09 UTC  

while his comments on that vid was filled with people exclaiming that they agree with the news.

2018-10-10 06:44:22 UTC  

im not following

2018-10-10 06:44:40 UTC  

i dont think ive seen that video

2018-10-10 06:44:50 UTC  

that one

2018-10-10 06:45:46 UTC  

Ok just read the first bunch of comments

2018-10-10 06:45:49 UTC  

when I saw that, I was immediately horrified

2018-10-10 06:45:51 UTC  

See thats what you get

2018-10-10 06:46:00 UTC  

When you do not adress reality and the issues

2018-10-10 06:46:16 UTC  

and instead decide to sweep it under the rug and call everyone racist

2018-10-10 06:46:23 UTC  

then that festers and festers

2018-10-10 06:46:26 UTC  

and then you get this

2018-10-10 06:46:51 UTC  

yeah

2018-10-10 06:46:53 UTC  

Its not that i am agreeing with their assesment

2018-10-10 06:47:03 UTC  

its more like im not surprised by this at all

2018-10-10 06:47:03 UTC  

it's disturbing as heck

2018-10-10 06:47:13 UTC  

i see this stuff everyday