Message from @tritrium

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2018-10-10 07:05:43 UTC  

but they only expect you to speak 2 properly

2018-10-10 07:05:52 UTC  

I speak 4 languages "fluently", with some other minor languages

2018-10-10 07:06:20 UTC  

But here is another example i always give to people

2018-10-10 07:06:30 UTC  

also, even though I'm chinese descent, I can't speak chinese at all

2018-10-10 07:06:55 UTC  

back in the 90s we had a large movement of eastern europeans coming in due to the whole balkan conflict

2018-10-10 07:07:34 UTC  

I even almost got suspected for weird stuff in China because I didn't understand jackshit of what their ATF was saying

2018-10-10 07:08:01 UTC  

and was promptly scolded by my grandma who speak the language

2018-10-10 07:08:17 UTC  

Yeah, I know of the balkan conflict

2018-10-10 07:10:43 UTC  

I dont recall anyone calling anyone racist for pointing out these people were disproportionally committing a huge amount of crime.
Hell even the police chief here was quoted saying "at least theyre so nice to solve their own problems" as a reference to all the murdering going on.
But everyone was sick of it.

We got the same thing today only on a much larger scale in terms of people coming in.
But now the reply is that when you point out how theyre disproportionally represented in the crime stats & jail population, you are called a racist and thats the end of the debate.
Theres just no looking into what is causing these problems, cops get told to stand down due to fear of things escalating whenever theres a confrontation and so on

2018-10-10 07:11:28 UTC  

The latter has a caveat tho*

2018-10-10 07:11:36 UTC  

Depends on what city and who it is ran by

2018-10-10 07:12:16 UTC  

Prolly the best one is a city south of me which is a liberal

2018-10-10 07:12:35 UTC  

he seems to have found a good recipe for dealing with these issues

2018-10-10 07:13:23 UTC  

tbh, I never recalled any immigrants causing a huge issue in Indonesia

2018-10-10 07:13:40 UTC  

some tribal tensions, sure

2018-10-10 07:13:49 UTC  

it just depends on how big the cultural difference is and the language barrier i think

2018-10-10 07:13:55 UTC  

I suppose

2018-10-10 07:14:09 UTC  

and quantity vs period of time

2018-10-10 07:14:34 UTC  

tbh, most people come to Indonesia not to stay, but for vacations

2018-10-10 07:14:48 UTC  

especially in Bali and Lombok

2018-10-10 07:15:01 UTC  

yea i been there once

2018-10-10 07:15:04 UTC  

bali

2018-10-10 07:15:09 UTC  

since there's plenty of tourist destinations in Indonesia

2018-10-10 07:16:00 UTC  

but barely anyone ever pays attention to whats going on in belgium anyways

2018-10-10 07:16:05 UTC  

were a poststamp on the map

2018-10-10 07:17:11 UTC  

I don't think a lot of people in Asia can pinpoint belgium on their first try

2018-10-10 07:17:49 UTC  

unless they either into history or international relations

2018-10-10 07:18:38 UTC  

yea i dont think thats limited to people from asia 😄

2018-10-10 07:19:39 UTC  

but I hope people from congo would be able to point on where belgium is

2018-10-10 07:21:25 UTC  

i dont know, apparently they do and know more of the combined history then people think

2018-10-10 07:22:58 UTC  

at least they understand that they cant expect the current generation to "fix the past" i cant do anything to fix that. But i can say that i never thought about anything regarding race untill recently when people started to non stop talk about it.

2018-10-10 07:23:22 UTC  

Some think we should but you always gonna have those people regardless

2018-10-10 07:23:57 UTC  

it is fair to say tho that schools should do more teaching about our history with congo

2018-10-10 07:24:05 UTC  

because i learned very little of that in school

2018-10-10 07:24:34 UTC  

but in a factual way not in the "you are bad because history" way

2018-10-10 07:24:50 UTC  

what I hope people to do is not fix the past, but acknowledge the sins of our fathers, where things went wrong and do better. Is it not what you can draw from learning history?

2018-10-10 07:25:28 UTC  

Well what we would draw from learning history is that totalitarian states are a bad idea

2018-10-10 07:25:33 UTC  

and the left cant have that.

2018-10-10 07:26:25 UTC  

depends on which kind of left tho...

2018-10-10 07:26:30 UTC  

Thats what history does but the current mentality seems to think that history needs to be rewritten

2018-10-10 07:27:17 UTC  

the only way I can endorse histroy being rewritten is to remove most of the bias held by each countries to paint the truth.