Message from @tritrium

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2018-10-10 18:22:34 UTC  

@oprahsminge what's it about??

2018-10-10 18:22:43 UTC  

put it in newsroom

2018-10-10 18:23:00 UTC  

it talks about misconceptions the left and right have about the country

2018-10-10 18:23:05 UTC  

I meant good place to visit not to live

2018-10-10 18:23:21 UTC  

@oprahsminge can you give a gist if you read the whole thing?

2018-10-10 18:23:24 UTC  

i like, at least in theory, the idea behind their version of social security

2018-10-10 18:23:35 UTC  

deregulation

2018-10-10 18:23:52 UTC  

Singapore is a great place to live tbh, just that your voting doesn't really matter

2018-10-10 18:24:29 UTC  

basically it talks about the rather unique circumstances that allow sweden to be sweden in terms of the way it runs

2018-10-10 18:24:54 UTC  

they benefit from being a relatively low population country that has a very deep interpersonal trust

2018-10-10 18:25:05 UTC  

on economic issues they are further right than the american right

2018-10-10 18:25:13 UTC  

in some ways at least

2018-10-10 18:26:11 UTC  

theres a film coming out called "Sweden: Lessons for America?"

2018-10-10 18:26:16 UTC  

I may need to watch this

2018-10-10 18:26:59 UTC  

based on the description there's a few things that simply wont work here

2018-10-10 18:27:23 UTC  

some of these things require trust of government which americans simply don't have

2018-10-10 18:27:30 UTC  

as much as the left pretends they do

2018-10-10 18:27:46 UTC  

Sweden is becoming more America like right now, so they won't work over there either for much longer

2018-10-10 18:27:55 UTC  

thats the problem in most of western EU countries

2018-10-10 18:28:00 UTC  

not the solution

2018-10-10 18:28:14 UTC  

people putting way to much trust in government

2018-10-10 18:29:42 UTC  

@AdorableStormtrooper yes but we have a couple issues that we may be able to glean some ideas from

2018-10-10 18:29:50 UTC  

they reformed their original pension system

2018-10-10 18:29:56 UTC  

they partially privatized it

2018-10-10 18:30:05 UTC  

now ultimately I want that entire system here gone

2018-10-10 18:30:16 UTC  

but as a kind of intermediate step to remove it, that isn't a terrible idea

2018-10-10 18:30:16 UTC  

i agree with that

2018-10-10 18:30:21 UTC  

thats interesting

2018-10-10 18:30:24 UTC  

public pensions are cancer

2018-10-10 18:30:29 UTC  

in addition, they made them variable

2018-10-10 18:30:30 UTC  

it's a ponzi scheme

2018-10-10 18:30:38 UTC  

so the amount paid depends on the state of the economy

2018-10-10 18:30:41 UTC  

they gonna have to do that over here as well i think

2018-10-10 18:31:08 UTC  

the person interviewed say "while it may not be as generous now as it was, at least we know it will survive."

2018-10-10 18:31:39 UTC  

economically, they are rated as a more free and open economy than america

2018-10-10 18:31:39 UTC  

it can be done over a long time so current pension receivers and people who are just about to become eligible aren't affected, people who haven't paid into the system, their shit should be privatised

2018-10-10 18:31:47 UTC  

i mean just imagine being 50+ and suddenly getting told that this pension you worked all your life for, paying huge amounts of taxes for.
Well you gonna get less now AND you gonna have to work longer as well!
Were very sorry 😃

2018-10-10 18:32:01 UTC  

that is what happened here btw

2018-10-10 18:32:04 UTC  

its not a hypothetical

2018-10-10 18:32:10 UTC  

ive accepted that im going to pay into the system and not expect to get anything

2018-10-10 18:32:30 UTC  

though tbh whatever SS can do for me wont really matter since my current retirement plan that is private will pay me several times it