@AdorableStormtrooper yes but we have a couple issues that we may be able to glean some ideas from

they reformed their original pension system

they partially privatized it

now ultimately I want that entire system here gone

but as a kind of intermediate step to remove it, that isn't a terrible idea

i agree with that

thats interesting

public pensions are cancer

in addition, they made them variable

it's a ponzi scheme

so the amount paid depends on the state of the economy

they gonna have to do that over here as well i think

the person interviewed say "while it may not be as generous now as it was, at least we know it will survive."

economically, they are rated as a more free and open economy than america

it can be done over a long time so current pension receivers and people who are just about to become eligible aren't affected, people who haven't paid into the system, their shit should be privatised

i mean just imagine being 50+ and suddenly getting told that this pension you worked all your life for, paying huge amounts of taxes for.
Well you gonna get less now AND you gonna have to work longer as well!
Were very sorry 😃

that is what happened here btw

its not a hypothetical

ive accepted that im going to pay into the system and not expect to get anything

though tbh whatever SS can do for me wont really matter since my current retirement plan that is private will pay me several times it

ah so ur one of the smart guys 😛

they privatize over a long time i think don't they? i think they proposed that in NZ, and the proposal was that people who are aged over 40 will not be affected

this is why, the sooner you do it, the lower the blow

@tritrium not really. I mean social security isn't exactly a high pay system as it is

I worked with a guy when I was 22 who was near retirement and he said, "Social Security isn't going to pay me enough to continue living here. So I'm going to supplement it with a part time job"

well thats true pensions arent very high here either

at that point i realized that "if this guy is boned, I'm definitely going to be boned"

so i made some choices

the more rightwing parties here keep bitching about unemployment payouts

and how they need to cut on those

but when u look at the numbers, it barely even shows up in the total budget figures

Welfare needs to go anyway, charity should be a private affair

cutting unemployment is not necessary

he talks about the other EU countries being stupid for trying to mimic sweden

basically they are taxing their populace and businesses to death

and regulating them to death

What is necessary is the formation of public support to tackle longer term issues

what do you mean @Blackhawk342

I mean that parties need to stop focusing on minutia and start having debates about the long term

i wonder how simple the swedish tax system is?

For the left, stop harping on LGBTQQIIAA2SP+ issues