Message from Virtue in Safe Space 3 #lobby-unvetted


2017-05-09 20:10:23 UTC  

That is a bit of modern propaganda you have been feed.

2017-05-09 20:10:35 UTC  

They did question authority

2017-05-09 20:10:46 UTC  

The individual should.

2017-05-09 20:11:05 UTC  

students and other teachers did question teatchers
in the entire victorian era.

2017-05-09 20:11:25 UTC  

But they did so within their system.
they still had authority figures..

2017-05-09 20:11:49 UTC  

Questioning authority isn't mutually exclusive with having authority.

2017-05-09 20:11:52 UTC  

the current school system has abolish the authorative figure

2017-05-09 20:11:59 UTC  

Exactly

2017-05-09 20:12:13 UTC  

I haven't been in school for quite a while.

2017-05-09 20:12:28 UTC  

you haven't?

2017-05-09 20:12:36 UTC  

I remember seeing peers spanked bare bottom in front of the whole class.

2017-05-09 20:12:52 UTC  

Teacher would keep a paddle on the wall near the door.

2017-05-09 20:13:05 UTC  

oh the old days..

2017-05-09 20:13:16 UTC  

are you that old?

2017-05-09 20:13:30 UTC  

From a rural town. So they probably were a bit resistant to change.

2017-05-09 20:13:36 UTC  

we need some of that BACK

2017-05-09 20:13:44 UTC  

And yeah, I'm probably much older than most of the people who use discord.

2017-05-09 20:14:18 UTC  

The physical punnishment is wrong.

2017-05-09 20:14:34 UTC  

But you dont actually need to get rid of the authority figure

2017-05-09 20:14:39 UTC  

It helped form my anti-authoritarian beliefs.

2017-05-09 20:14:56 UTC  

Teachers can be authority figures without resorting to violence

2017-05-09 20:15:07 UTC  

I agree. And they should.

2017-05-09 20:15:13 UTC  

I actually come from a savage private school.

2017-05-09 20:15:30 UTC  

When I got into a modern school
I was so fucking gratefull

2017-05-09 20:15:51 UTC  

and I hated my spoiled fucking peers
because they didn't appriciate it

2017-05-09 20:16:29 UTC  

My first reaction was actually that I wanted the teachers to be more authoritarian
to the other students who misbehaved

2017-05-09 20:17:03 UTC  

the problem with FREE schools.
is that the kids who are assholes
are not punnished.

2017-05-09 20:17:13 UTC  

I mostly just want to see the law applied even handedly and not selectively.

2017-05-09 20:17:28 UTC  

the problem with asshole school
is that everyone are punnished collectively all the time

2017-05-09 20:17:37 UTC  

(and for all consensual crimes to be legal)

2017-05-09 20:17:46 UTC  

LOL

2017-05-09 20:17:47 UTC  

Maybe I am a libertarian.

2017-05-09 20:18:01 UTC  

I consider myself very libertarian as well.

2017-05-09 20:18:24 UTC  

Collective punishment seems useful in the military I guess?

2017-05-09 20:18:50 UTC  

but I think society needs to be mix of the power we give to authorities
and the freedrom we demand for ourselves.

2017-05-09 20:19:05 UTC  

I dont think so.

2017-05-09 20:19:20 UTC  

I think collective punishment just damage the group morale

2017-05-09 20:19:39 UTC  

its not like soldiers get many luxeries to begin with..

2017-05-09 20:20:14 UTC  

also collective punishment
assumes that you dont know who is guilty..

2017-05-09 20:21:05 UTC  

you could speculate that just being in the army
and volunteering for a fucking war
is a sacrifice equivalent to collective punnishment already

2017-05-09 20:21:32 UTC  

Well, you get paid and some of it is tax free ...