in our current political system nothing less than a fanatical ideology
can push through the simplest reform..

Agreed. Lowest common denominator is what can get consensus. Or outright war.

More specific. The shared ideology is the education system
people will not submit to authoritive teacher-student relationships
in a democracy.

Is authoritative the proper method?

Yes.

like anti-student democracy.

I haven't read this book in a while, but it moved me at the time. http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/

The concept of the authoritarian follower was terrifying.

I read about teaching methods and the history of changes in teachers methods
and think the old disciplin oriented education sytem was the correct
one and this education we have now is based
on free upbringing and having discussions with children
to get them to understand things..

...sight I meant authoritarian as authoritian
not the political system..

Human beings have and need authority figures..

Yes, but questioning authority is very useful.

I am not saying that we should brainwash children or make everyone

That is a bit of modern propaganda you have been feed.

They did question authority

The individual should.

students and other teachers did question teatchers
in the entire victorian era.

But they did so within their system.
they still had authority figures..

Questioning authority isn't mutually exclusive with having authority.

the current school system has abolish the authorative figure

Exactly

I haven't been in school for quite a while.

you haven't?

I remember seeing peers spanked bare bottom in front of the whole class.

Teacher would keep a paddle on the wall near the door.

oh the old days..

are you that old?

From a rural town. So they probably were a bit resistant to change.

we need some of that BACK

And yeah, I'm probably much older than most of the people who use discord.

The physical punnishment is wrong.

But you dont actually need to get rid of the authority figure

It helped form my anti-authoritarian beliefs.

Teachers can be authority figures without resorting to violence

I agree. And they should.

I actually come from a savage private school.

When I got into a modern school
I was so fucking gratefull

and I hated my spoiled fucking peers
because they didn't appriciate it

My first reaction was actually that I wanted the teachers to be more authoritarian
to the other students who misbehaved

the problem with FREE schools.
is that the kids who are assholes
are not punnished.

I mostly just want to see the law applied even handedly and not selectively.