Message from @donborvio

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2020-03-06 03:06:11 UTC  

Yeah missed it by a vote that was a real let down. AS to UBI the only proposal I saw that made sense was by Murray who said that if it was used to *replace* all other social spending it would be a net reduction. Even then I am suspicious. Because if they gave a UBI of one grand this year it would open the door for the next candidate to campaign on a UBI of 2 grand and ever upward for eternity.

2020-03-06 03:06:58 UTC  

Campaigns would become a bidding war over who could promise to buy the most votes.

2020-03-06 03:07:02 UTC  

so would a minimum wage hike raise costs

2020-03-06 03:07:17 UTC  

So that's different than now, how? <a:1KEKW:638018439738556416>

2020-03-06 03:07:27 UTC  

It does raise costs

2020-03-06 03:07:56 UTC  

The minimum wage argument straight confuses me. I live in a sensible place where nobody pays the minimum wage so nobody cares what it is.

2020-03-06 03:08:53 UTC  

Just look at Seattle, they implemented a mandatory 15$ minimum and now everything from gas to Starbucks is way more expensive compared to just one county over

2020-03-06 03:09:07 UTC  

UBI with no other welfare and end the minimum wage would be ideal

2020-03-06 03:09:41 UTC  

Something given has no value

2020-03-06 03:10:01 UTC  

Because people could just say "hey I don't have to work for you anyway". It puts power in the hands of the worker without going full pinko.

2020-03-06 03:10:39 UTC  

Ok, Rasczak

2020-03-06 03:10:48 UTC  

Because it is fucking Seattle. Were I in Seattle making 15 an hour I would save my pennies and buy a bus ticket to the Midwest and raise my standard of living.

2020-03-06 03:12:29 UTC  

High minimum wages kill small business, while a UBI isn't meant as a complete replacement for income.

2020-03-06 03:12:55 UTC  

It will still be used as one

2020-03-06 03:13:14 UTC  

It's too open to exploitation from bad actors

2020-03-06 03:14:27 UTC  

Ans again this is not the central problem with UBI. In an alternate universe where the water supply is spiked with a drug that strips 22 points oof the national IQ and Yang wins what next? Well someone runs against him offering to double the UBI. And then again and again.

2020-03-06 03:14:32 UTC  

bad actors doing what? Jacking up rent?

2020-03-06 03:14:37 UTC  

I already see an issue with shithole abusive hypehouses like airsoftfatty becoming commonplace

2020-03-06 03:14:54 UTC  

The Expanse had the interesting take on it, there were so few jobs left on Earth - 60% had to live on "government assistance" in the 23rd century because of automation

2020-03-06 03:17:47 UTC  

So we'll live in the Ready Player One future then

2020-03-06 03:17:58 UTC  

I'm down with that dystopia <:LUL:279763479634771969>

2020-03-06 03:35:55 UTC  

That's not a new one. Judge Dredd has like 98% of MegaCity-1 living on welfare because robots do damn near everything

2020-03-06 03:36:42 UTC  

large part of the craziest shit that goes on is a direct consequence of the shit people do to just keep busy

2020-03-06 03:38:11 UTC  

shit that may or may not be allowed by the justice department, which doubles as the central government

2020-03-06 03:39:21 UTC  

and wow, the shit that flies when stuff like the pro-democracy rallies crop up

2020-03-06 03:39:43 UTC  

JD comics were rather ahead of their time

2020-03-06 03:56:21 UTC  

"wah wah, how dare you exercise your right to political demonstration, fuck your first ammendment"

2020-03-06 03:56:24 UTC  

I mean, they are both wrong. The anti-BDS regulations are against government agencies paying civilian contractors who participate in BDS.

2020-03-06 03:57:06 UTC  

>BDS is responsible for 6 million jews
ok, bye bye

2020-03-06 03:57:10 UTC  

out of my fucking country

2020-03-06 03:57:49 UTC  

coming here fucking with our bill of rights and revising history for your narrative

2020-03-06 03:58:03 UTC  

get your fucking scum fuck savage feet off our soil

2020-03-06 03:58:26 UTC  

Well I mean technically most of them want to kill 8.8M.....

2020-03-06 03:59:19 UTC  

>I disagree with the term hate speech but fuck your rights

2020-03-06 03:59:57 UTC  

Well yeah like I said they are both wrong.

2020-03-06 04:00:33 UTC  

>1st major philosophy & theology
>PHD political Science
ohhhhhh so you're a moron

2020-03-06 04:01:06 UTC  

theology and politics

2020-03-06 04:01:10 UTC  

big red flag

2020-03-06 04:01:22 UTC  

fuck this slurring cunt

2020-03-06 04:01:28 UTC  

outta my country