Message from @donborvio
Discord ID: 685325229438140451
UBI would just make the base cost of consumer goods rise
Yeah missed it by a vote that was a real let down. AS to UBI the only proposal I saw that made sense was by Murray who said that if it was used to *replace* all other social spending it would be a net reduction. Even then I am suspicious. Because if they gave a UBI of one grand this year it would open the door for the next candidate to campaign on a UBI of 2 grand and ever upward for eternity.
Campaigns would become a bidding war over who could promise to buy the most votes.
so would a minimum wage hike raise costs
So that's different than now, how? <a:1KEKW:638018439738556416>
It does raise costs
The minimum wage argument straight confuses me. I live in a sensible place where nobody pays the minimum wage so nobody cares what it is.
Just look at Seattle, they implemented a mandatory 15$ minimum and now everything from gas to Starbucks is way more expensive compared to just one county over
UBI with no other welfare and end the minimum wage would be ideal
Something given has no value
Because people could just say "hey I don't have to work for you anyway". It puts power in the hands of the worker without going full pinko.
Ok, Rasczak
Because it is fucking Seattle. Were I in Seattle making 15 an hour I would save my pennies and buy a bus ticket to the Midwest and raise my standard of living.
High minimum wages kill small business, while a UBI isn't meant as a complete replacement for income.
It will still be used as one
It's too open to exploitation from bad actors
Ans again this is not the central problem with UBI. In an alternate universe where the water supply is spiked with a drug that strips 22 points oof the national IQ and Yang wins what next? Well someone runs against him offering to double the UBI. And then again and again.
bad actors doing what? Jacking up rent?
I already see an issue with shithole abusive hypehouses like airsoftfatty becoming commonplace
The Expanse had the interesting take on it, there were so few jobs left on Earth - 60% had to live on "government assistance" in the 23rd century because of automation
I'm down with that dystopia <:LUL:279763479634771969>
That's not a new one. Judge Dredd has like 98% of MegaCity-1 living on welfare because robots do damn near everything
large part of the craziest shit that goes on is a direct consequence of the shit people do to just keep busy
shit that may or may not be allowed by the justice department, which doubles as the central government
and wow, the shit that flies when stuff like the pro-democracy rallies crop up
JD comics were rather ahead of their time
"wah wah, how dare you exercise your right to political demonstration, fuck your first ammendment"
I mean, they are both wrong. The anti-BDS regulations are against government agencies paying civilian contractors who participate in BDS.
>BDS is responsible for 6 million jews
ok, bye bye
out of my fucking country
coming here fucking with our bill of rights and revising history for your narrative
get your fucking scum fuck savage feet off our soil
Well I mean technically most of them want to kill 8.8M.....
>I disagree with the term hate speech but fuck your rights
Well yeah like I said they are both wrong.
>1st major philosophy & theology
>PHD political Science
ohhhhhh so you're a moron
theology and politics
big red flag
fuck this slurring cunt