Not 150m armed militia men, but real resistance members

Not like lefty gays

Yes, but that's the point I am making.

With that level of unity, violence is unnecessary.

Passive resistance on that scale can bring anything to a standstill.

Yeah and 150m would not be that hard if the government tries to use our military to enforce some fascistic marshal law. That's so anti American it's insane to think about and we'd freak the fuck out

We're not cucked continentals

But, the sad part is that government abuse can continue for a very long time and people will not coordinate.

Maybe that is different now with the internet.

The Gulag Archipelago detailed this well.

Yeah if it's a slow thing, but I'm talking about the marshal law scenario

The army of the Soviet Union was incredibly weak for years before that fall.

If people had formed militias, it could have ended far sooner, but they were taken away one by one.

They still believed in the cause, some even when they were already in the Gulag.

Every productive person in Sweden could just decide to stop paying taxes and the migrant crises would end within a month.

The thing is, people are divided against each other, so they get states that abuse the ones who are most compliant.

The migrant crisis isn't as bad as the Swedish government using it's military to strike it's own people. You keep changing the scenario.

Also, Sweden isn't America

No, it's actually a very similar scenario.

I see there being one thread in all of this.

Bad policy harming a country is not the same as military force on one's own populace.

I see it all as the abuse of dysfunctional states that no longer serve their people but are there to abuse them.

Yes there can be a theme in there that's the same, but the scale is so much different

The issue with the modern state is that they have become a purpose onto their own end and perpetration.

The scale? Sure it's different for countries of different sizes.

Stop right there

I'm not talking about scale of US v Sweden

But the types of abuses, the kinds of laws that are being enacted all over the place are very similar.

I said the situation of migrants and military occupation

I don't see it as very differen,t because it's not the root cause of their issues.

Nobody wanted the EU super state.

Laws and state powers have eroded individual rights and seeped into every aspect of life.

Okay, denying a Jew service at a restaurant and the holocaust have the same root cause. The person hates Jews. SCALE is important.

There is the erosion of due process, for example, that is replicated almost exactly this side of the Atlantic and the other.

I feel like I'm talking past you.

There is C-51 in Canada, there is cancer like Title IX in the US, there is Alison Saunders and her ilk in the UK, rape shield laws.

What scale do you want to discuss?

It's systematic at a national level for each country.

Those changes are replicated like cookie cutter.

They couldn't be any more alike.

I've told you multiple times what the point I was arguing was. The US would easily revolt in a scenario where the government used the military to strike citizens. That's an extreme abuse of power. I made no comments on what the US would do in a small abuse of power like these due process things. I can't seem to get you to acknowledge the scale of difference between these 2 slights by the government