Message from @Dvir

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2018-10-24 04:41:44 UTC  

in the islamic world, homosexuality is at the very least punishable by jailtime, if not death.

in the islamic world, apostacy is punishable by the STATE in the bulk of those countries

2018-10-24 04:42:07 UTC  

can you imagine the US government executing you because you left christianity?

2018-10-24 04:42:17 UTC  

not letting other people kill you

2018-10-24 04:42:22 UTC  

but the actual government

2018-10-24 04:42:22 UTC  

Not in modern society, no.

2018-10-24 04:42:26 UTC  

modern society

2018-10-24 04:42:31 UTC  

the middle east is pretty modern

2018-10-24 04:42:33 UTC  

they have internet

2018-10-24 04:42:38 UTC  

and still punish apostacy with death

2018-10-24 04:42:45 UTC  

No, the middle east took huge steps backwards in the 70s

2018-10-24 04:42:49 UTC  

no

2018-10-24 04:42:51 UTC  

iran did

2018-10-24 04:42:55 UTC  

because it went from persian

2018-10-24 04:42:56 UTC  

to muslim

2018-10-24 04:42:56 UTC  

Afghanistan did.

2018-10-24 04:43:04 UTC  

its the 51% rule

2018-10-24 04:43:05 UTC  

Iraq did.

2018-10-24 04:43:12 UTC  

I'm pretty sure execution for apostacy was not a standard in Christian states at any point in time, let alone in the modern age.

2018-10-24 04:43:20 UTC  

the second they become muslim dominant, they legistlate and clean house

2018-10-24 04:43:38 UTC  

which was why after a major election swing in the 1970s

2018-10-24 04:43:38 UTC  

The problem with Islam is that we aren't looking for practical solutions to amending it. We haven't tried to push reformation of the religion itself.

2018-10-24 04:43:49 UTC  

the next year the women were forced BY LAW to wear a hijab

2018-10-24 04:43:56 UTC  

we have

2018-10-24 04:43:58 UTC  

i do

2018-10-24 04:44:07 UTC  

the leftists call them islamaphobic

2018-10-24 04:44:12 UTC  

and the islamists try to kill them

2018-10-24 04:44:23 UTC  

and the right wing is too afraid to befriend reformist imams

2018-10-24 04:44:24 UTC  

now that IS, in fact, a problem.

2018-10-24 04:44:24 UTC  

Groups like the Ismailis, Druze, Alawites, and Sufi mystics are examples of civilized religious practice

2018-10-24 04:44:34 UTC  

its a problem rye

2018-10-24 04:44:37 UTC  

But anyway, most of what you were arguing was ignoring the concept of values.

2018-10-24 04:44:42 UTC  

because islamic culture is their culture

2018-10-24 04:44:54 UTC  

A Christian still generally maintains certain values

2018-10-24 04:45:01 UTC  

like, it fosters extremism'

2018-10-24 04:45:11 UTC  

not really

2018-10-24 04:45:12 UTC  

values that are specifically compatible with the United States values

2018-10-24 04:45:17 UTC  

Maybe not the ones you know

2018-10-24 04:45:18 UTC  

every christian i know has premartial sex

2018-10-24 04:45:21 UTC  

does drugs

2018-10-24 04:45:21 UTC  

but I know plenty that hold them

2018-10-24 04:45:22 UTC  

lies