Message from @Beef Taquitos

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2018-10-30 17:00:35 UTC  

But even the authoritharian - libertarian axis isnt a left right thing

2018-10-30 17:00:39 UTC  

@>_ So, like... any actual leftists? Like, people that are further left than the democratic party?

2018-10-30 17:00:44 UTC  

Yeah

2018-10-30 17:00:49 UTC  

Like flat out communists

2018-10-30 17:00:51 UTC  

and socialists

2018-10-30 17:00:55 UTC  

who have been my friends for a while

2018-10-30 17:01:06 UTC  

That I used to discuss with openly growing up

2018-10-30 17:01:08 UTC  

And they wouldn't debate with you? That's funny.

2018-10-30 17:01:13 UTC  

They wouldn't. Ever.

2018-10-30 17:01:18 UTC  

Not past their talking points.

2018-10-30 17:01:22 UTC  

To be honest

2018-10-30 17:01:26 UTC  

Once they hit a wall they refused to go further.

2018-10-30 17:01:32 UTC  

Most of my friends have been very open to discussion, though 90% of them are center - something

2018-10-30 17:01:38 UTC  

Normal people are not the sort to go "hey I want to talk to someone I disagree with"

2018-10-30 17:01:38 UTC  

If they didn't have a talking point to respond to me with it was just radio silence.

2018-10-30 17:01:44 UTC  

Most people I've known seem to hate arguing about almost anything. And if you have a better term for it than "argument" that is more accurate please advise.

2018-10-30 17:01:54 UTC  

I still think its just most people

2018-10-30 17:01:55 UTC  

@Beef Taquitos discuss, talk

2018-10-30 17:01:56 UTC  

Discussion Beef

2018-10-30 17:01:57 UTC  

Most people dislike conflict

2018-10-30 17:02:07 UTC  

No, that's not more accurate.

2018-10-30 17:02:21 UTC  

Why not?

2018-10-30 17:02:35 UTC  

So like...

2018-10-30 17:02:38 UTC  

An argument doesn't have to be angry. A discussion is not as confrontational as an argument where you argue points and counter-points. A debate is too formal.

2018-10-30 17:02:39 UTC  

Send money to gab?

2018-10-30 17:02:47 UTC  

Both sides are presenting their ideas and going back and forth about them. A discussion can have disagreement without it being an arguement.

2018-10-30 17:02:48 UTC  

cant

2018-10-30 17:02:54 UTC  
2018-10-30 17:02:56 UTC  

JDM, being late to the party. Or having Tim be angry at him

2018-10-30 17:02:56 UTC  

it's the whole "It's not my job to educate you" "Go read all of Karl Marx works before you ever even think of criticizing marxist theory" "I don't want to talk about this right now (or ever)" or flat out ghosting.

2018-10-30 17:03:00 UTC  

Discussion is too general.

2018-10-30 17:03:12 UTC  

holy shit that annoys me to no end

2018-10-30 17:03:24 UTC  

@>_ in general, "read marx" is a pretty good argument, because he's covered almost all of the common talking points

2018-10-30 17:03:25 UTC  

They expect you to go and learn their position

2018-10-30 17:03:27 UTC  

*bring them fire*

2018-10-30 17:03:33 UTC  

"I discussed this with him" could mean any number of things, you have no idea if it was just "hey I like cats" "yeah I like cats too" or whatever.

2018-10-30 17:03:36 UTC  

iron law of oligarchy 😦

2018-10-30 17:03:37 UTC  

why would I address an argument that's been addressed 100 years ago?

2018-10-30 17:03:40 UTC  

I mean they can't defend their positions themselves.

2018-10-30 17:03:50 UTC  

The issue is, if you make a claim, its on you to provide your bases

2018-10-30 17:03:59 UTC  

rip why yall trolling my boi V