Message from @Beef Taquitos
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But even the authoritharian - libertarian axis isnt a left right thing
@>_ So, like... any actual leftists? Like, people that are further left than the democratic party?
Yeah
Like flat out communists
and socialists
who have been my friends for a while
That I used to discuss with openly growing up
And they wouldn't debate with you? That's funny.
They wouldn't. Ever.
Not past their talking points.
To be honest
Once they hit a wall they refused to go further.
Most of my friends have been very open to discussion, though 90% of them are center - something
Normal people are not the sort to go "hey I want to talk to someone I disagree with"
If they didn't have a talking point to respond to me with it was just radio silence.
Most people I've known seem to hate arguing about almost anything. And if you have a better term for it than "argument" that is more accurate please advise.
I still think its just most people
@Beef Taquitos discuss, talk
Discussion Beef
Most people dislike conflict
Why not?
So like...
An argument doesn't have to be angry. A discussion is not as confrontational as an argument where you argue points and counter-points. A debate is too formal.
Send money to gab?
Both sides are presenting their ideas and going back and forth about them. A discussion can have disagreement without it being an arguement.
cant
JDM, being late to the party. Or having Tim be angry at him
it's the whole "It's not my job to educate you" "Go read all of Karl Marx works before you ever even think of criticizing marxist theory" "I don't want to talk about this right now (or ever)" or flat out ghosting.
Discussion is too general.
holy shit that annoys me to no end
@>_ in general, "read marx" is a pretty good argument, because he's covered almost all of the common talking points
They expect you to go and learn their position
*bring them fire*
"I discussed this with him" could mean any number of things, you have no idea if it was just "hey I like cats" "yeah I like cats too" or whatever.
iron law of oligarchy 😦
why would I address an argument that's been addressed 100 years ago?
I mean they can't defend their positions themselves.
The issue is, if you make a claim, its on you to provide your bases
rip why yall trolling my boi V