Message from @Coolitic
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nah, european republics are a mix of authoritarian power, capitalism and surplus welfare
surplus welfare =/= socialism
And faggots
@Mersenne And with that in mind, you can't really call the Social Democrats of Sweden "socialist", because they don't seek to abolish private property or earning profits from the private market like real socialists would.
Essentially, the Social Democrats of Sweden are just the extended party arm of the labour unions.
Welcome back Ninja
oh no
I'm a year older today
@Mersenne Or at least they used to be, until "progressivism" infected them
I'm more likely to die or coronavirus now
frick
@Mersenne careful with your definitions. Typicallly, those in 2020 that use the term 'Democratic Socialist' don't know what the fuck they are talkin about
or any OTHER label for that matter
european authoritarianism is rather soft and limited though, so it does not do much harm, and is kept in check by the industries
Luckily, most Nordic countries still hate socialism overall
which is weird, but whatever works
that's how it starts....
I’m not one to play semantics with radical progressive ideologies. The all effectively strive for similar end goals and process themselves to be the moral arbiters of our time.
Europeans are gay
Europe is a mistake
They’re ideological zealots of the neo-Marxist cloth.
I doubt socialism is even possible at the size bigger than a student commune...
Not reqlly
Yes, but you need to first DEFINE the terms THEN match people WITH those terms
@NinjaQuick nigga without europe no civilisations would be where they are
that is DIFFERENT than having the idiots that call themselves by incorrect terms dictating your definitions
So sad to see our boomer MA go due to corona
Socialism is possible everywhere. Lots of people would die, but it's doable. It would be miserable and regretted by all, but it's doable
good luck relying on africa for innovation
Europe is a failure so much potential squandered on intersectionality
And letting Muslims in
MA’s right on this one. When discussing the liquid definition of social democrat, democratic socialism, and nation socialism - you need to state *which fucking country* you’re referring to as their ideology is about as solid as quicksand.
IDGAF what they did, they are doing stupid shit
Correct
@Mersenne Yeah I agree that progressive ideologues do that.
What i'm saying is that the parties we're talking about weren't always "progressives".
Progressivism is a new trend in western political discourse.