Message from @Abel

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2018-12-02 05:18:34 UTC  

That's not even a real type of tree

2018-12-02 05:18:37 UTC  

Why are you lying

you caught me

2018-12-02 05:58:42 UTC  

no real victims of course only in nyc

2018-12-02 06:00:11 UTC  

I am at a loss

2018-12-02 06:00:51 UTC  

A Muslim told me that the terrorists are not true muslims

2018-12-02 06:03:24 UTC  

Scottish people are no true scottsmen

2018-12-02 06:03:25 UTC  

Well there's tons of sects of muslims

2018-12-02 06:03:38 UTC  

and all of them think the others aren't true muslims

2018-12-02 06:03:48 UTC  

Like she told me that the quran forbids attacks

2018-12-02 06:03:52 UTC  

And I am like

2018-12-02 06:03:58 UTC  

Saywut

2018-12-02 06:04:06 UTC  

She's not entirely wrong

2018-12-02 06:04:23 UTC  

Yeah yeah

2018-12-02 06:04:31 UTC  

the quran directly doesn't promote violent jihad, the Al-Bukhari interpretation does

2018-12-02 06:04:40 UTC  

and the Hadiths

2018-12-02 06:04:44 UTC  

Some sects reject those

2018-12-02 06:04:50 UTC  

Yeah a tiny minority

2018-12-02 06:04:55 UTC  

She's probably a Shi'a

2018-12-02 06:05:04 UTC  

@DrWittMDPhD Not really

2018-12-02 06:05:14 UTC  

I'd say it's about 45%

2018-12-02 06:05:23 UTC  

And there is the sunni I think

2018-12-02 06:05:26 UTC  

Lots of these people appear on stuff like Memri

2018-12-02 06:05:27 UTC  

Those exist

2018-12-02 06:05:41 UTC  

Sunni, Shia, Wahabbi, Sufi

2018-12-02 06:05:42 UTC  

Lol 55% of a billion is way too much

2018-12-02 06:05:57 UTC  

Well yeah

2018-12-02 06:06:10 UTC  

But we can't treat them all the same, you know?

2018-12-02 06:06:49 UTC  

That's not what I'm advocating for. Saying that real muslims don't like killing when 55% like violence against infidels is nuts

2018-12-02 06:06:59 UTC  

The majority of her constituents disagree with her

2018-12-02 06:07:25 UTC  

Here's the thing, there is no "Real" muslim

2018-12-02 06:07:51 UTC  

There's no point arguing about anything if you say that

2018-12-02 06:07:56 UTC  

dump it

2018-12-02 06:09:24 UTC  

Think of it this way-
Saying all muslims believe what happens in Saudi Arabia or what Bukhari's interpretation preaches, leads to all muslims rejecting what your say, including the peaceful ones

2018-12-02 06:10:03 UTC  

On the other hand, criticise them by specific sects, llike Wahabists, and you'll find tons of people who will happily support what you say

2018-12-02 06:11:35 UTC  

I suggest reacding "The tragedy of Islam", by Imam Tawhidi

2018-12-02 06:12:37 UTC  

@Misomania He's not wrong, I agree with him

2018-12-02 06:13:22 UTC  

I never said that violence isn't related to the religion, I just said #notallmuslims basically

2018-12-02 06:13:52 UTC  

he says most, not all in a few speeches, at least condone it depending on the target