Message from @Abel
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That's not even a real type of tree
Why are you lying
you caught me
no real victims of course only in nyc
I am at a loss
A Muslim told me that the terrorists are not true muslims
Scottish people are no true scottsmen
Well there's tons of sects of muslims
and all of them think the others aren't true muslims
Like she told me that the quran forbids attacks
And I am like
Saywut
She's not entirely wrong
Yeah yeah
the quran directly doesn't promote violent jihad, the Al-Bukhari interpretation does
and the Hadiths
Some sects reject those
Yeah a tiny minority
She's probably a Shi'a
I'd say it's about 45%
And there is the sunni I think
Lots of these people appear on stuff like Memri
Those exist
Sunni, Shia, Wahabbi, Sufi
Lol 55% of a billion is way too much
Well yeah
But we can't treat them all the same, you know?
That's not what I'm advocating for. Saying that real muslims don't like killing when 55% like violence against infidels is nuts
The majority of her constituents disagree with her
Here's the thing, there is no "Real" muslim
There's no point arguing about anything if you say that
dump it
Think of it this way-
Saying all muslims believe what happens in Saudi Arabia or what Bukhari's interpretation preaches, leads to all muslims rejecting what your say, including the peaceful ones
On the other hand, criticise them by specific sects, llike Wahabists, and you'll find tons of people who will happily support what you say
@Abel would you listen at least to majiid nawaz? https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/maajid-nawaz/stop-saying-violence-has-nothing-to-do-with-islam/
I suggest reacding "The tragedy of Islam", by Imam Tawhidi
@Misomania He's not wrong, I agree with him
I never said that violence isn't related to the religion, I just said #notallmuslims basically
he says most, not all in a few speeches, at least condone it depending on the target