Message from @Abel

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2018-12-02 06:04:50 UTC  

Yeah a tiny minority

2018-12-02 06:04:55 UTC  

She's probably a Shi'a

2018-12-02 06:05:04 UTC  

@DrWittMDPhD Not really

2018-12-02 06:05:14 UTC  

I'd say it's about 45%

2018-12-02 06:05:23 UTC  

And there is the sunni I think

2018-12-02 06:05:26 UTC  

Lots of these people appear on stuff like Memri

2018-12-02 06:05:27 UTC  

Those exist

2018-12-02 06:05:41 UTC  

Sunni, Shia, Wahabbi, Sufi

2018-12-02 06:05:42 UTC  

Lol 55% of a billion is way too much

2018-12-02 06:05:57 UTC  

Well yeah

2018-12-02 06:06:10 UTC  

But we can't treat them all the same, you know?

2018-12-02 06:06:49 UTC  

That's not what I'm advocating for. Saying that real muslims don't like killing when 55% like violence against infidels is nuts

2018-12-02 06:06:59 UTC  

The majority of her constituents disagree with her

2018-12-02 06:07:25 UTC  

Here's the thing, there is no "Real" muslim

2018-12-02 06:07:51 UTC  

There's no point arguing about anything if you say that

2018-12-02 06:07:56 UTC  

dump it

2018-12-02 06:09:24 UTC  

Think of it this way-
Saying all muslims believe what happens in Saudi Arabia or what Bukhari's interpretation preaches, leads to all muslims rejecting what your say, including the peaceful ones

2018-12-02 06:10:03 UTC  

On the other hand, criticise them by specific sects, llike Wahabists, and you'll find tons of people who will happily support what you say

2018-12-02 06:11:35 UTC  

I suggest reacding "The tragedy of Islam", by Imam Tawhidi

2018-12-02 06:12:37 UTC  

@Misomania He's not wrong, I agree with him

2018-12-02 06:13:22 UTC  

I never said that violence isn't related to the religion, I just said #notallmuslims basically

2018-12-02 06:13:52 UTC  

he says most, not all in a few speeches, at least condone it depending on the target

2018-12-02 06:14:15 UTC  

and was a former radical himself at one point iirc

2018-12-02 06:14:27 UTC  

If you can, watch some debates from Memri TV. The number of muslims opposing violence against infidels and lgbt are way, way more than you think

2018-12-02 06:15:30 UTC  

Read Tragedy of Islam, it goes a lot more into this

2018-12-02 06:16:04 UTC  

And also how the islamic state lies about the actual story of muhammed to attract more people

2018-12-02 06:16:27 UTC  

For example, Aisha wasn't 9, or 16.

2018-12-02 06:16:29 UTC  

she was 21

2018-12-02 06:17:10 UTC  

but what was said wasn't that they directly wanted to commit violence, just that they viewed those committing it in a positive light

2018-12-02 06:17:31 UTC  

and that was how extremism in his neighborhood spread

2018-12-02 06:18:11 UTC  

Yes cause the islamic state thinks saying muhammed is a pedo will attract people?

2018-12-02 06:18:43 UTC  

No, they think telling people Aisha was a virgin will attract people

2018-12-02 06:19:04 UTC  

@DrWittMDPhD would get them most of hollywood at least

2018-12-02 06:19:16 UTC  

Oh yeah, cause the only virgins are 6-9

2018-12-02 06:20:22 UTC  

It's a bit long, but there's lots of really interesting info

2018-12-02 06:21:10 UTC  

I've already read the hadith saying she's a child. What textual evidence do you have that refutes that

2018-12-02 06:23:53 UTC  

Saying that Aisha was 21 sounds like some revisionist Imam