Message from @Misomania
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Thats what i was getting at
i see
it also demeans the instituion's value to have people in because race card, why not just expand and accept more students?
@Misomania welll that depends
The White Man getting more goodies than us, we need to flood the market
@Misomania more studentsjust so they can fail? Not desirable i would argue. Thats what happens alot due to AA
once you fill your population via quota rather then merit, you inherently lower the value of all those involved @Redneo you could just expand and have a seperate campus
@Misomania well exactly.
Affirmative action displace meritocracy
@Misomania thats what i was saying
Displaces
@Misomania AA should be BASED on meritocracy and promoting the best
scholarships do that
Thats why we have shit doctors entering the field
@Misomania Yeah, they do.
why not just keep it merit and fund some really good scholarships?
that is pretty much my point
then no AA is needed then?
I mean its not needed, but youd have to incentivize the minorities to put forward their best.
if the students who score well but can't afford to go can qualify and get their education paid for via scholarship, maybe even in the form of corporate funded scholarship that gauruntees a job leaving college at the corporation funding the scholarship?
like a paid for internship, where your future employer is paying for you to go to school to learn that trade
I mean i have a problem with college fundamentalky when interacting with the job force
in germany its done through government funding of students. But public universities or colleges whatever the equivilant is i think american colleges are british universities and vice versa but whatever, if you want to make a masters or doctorate in germany on a public university, you dont pay for that. But they only accept - or accepted, im confident with social justice this has softened up - the best people on a number of places representative of the actual need in the fields. If you are poor, you even get an interest free government loan every month for your expenses.
Like law school ?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/276870573294878722/518988792732975150/image0.jpg the fuck is wrong with my school
(expenses such as food and such)
LOL GLORY HOLE
we tried that and college professors laerned that they can exploit it to expand their wages a hundred times over by turning their campuses into daycares @Redneo
no one fails, everyone can get a loan and all that matters is keeping the student there building up debt for as long as they can
after that? fuck the student and his lifelong inescapable debt because the college got their money
What would you rather have, a person with experience or a person with a degree?
Feminism and theater op
thats why you limit it to a number representative to the need of people in the field only accepting the best and i think at least the direct loan is not determined by the university. But i agree that there are certain risks.
Well that depends, actualy. If im having someone drive around dangerous material, im going to have to have him certification for that due to liability issues
not a degree as such but a similar principle as degrees are built on
Certification i think in general is necessary, but i dont think a fresh out of college kid should get a higher job because he sat through textbooks and seminars
I dislike that
I agree, and in practice at least in coding and such it depends only on you being able to show that you can do the job
I think forced imternships should applied to college
Internships
You do it for law school