Then what do you mean by "nothing" @SantaSoc

as far as rights for freed slaves and the following amendments to give voting rights... that was all republicans fighting against the democrats who wanted to keep their slaves

@Redneo tbf most people back then had weird racial motives for their ideals

Doesn’t mean that it was bad

Necessarily

“I do not want to see a negro man walk to the polls and vote on who should handle my tax money, while I myself cannot vote at all…When there is not enough religion in the pulpit to organize a crusade against sin; nor justice in the court house to promptly punish crime; nor manhood enough in the nation to put a sheltering arm about innocence and virtue—-if it needs lynching to protect woman’s dearest possession from the ravening human beasts—-then I say lynch, a thousand times a week if necessary.” - Rebecca Ann Latimer Felton, first woman to serve in the senate

I don't know about most, but definitely many. And many who were willing to use that rhetoric because they knew it worked.

yeah it was common but with them demanding the removal of southern statues its fair to paint that out

Most of the suffragettes were racist, but to be fair so were most people

Was wrong it took JFK to die for the 1964 civil rights act to move through

@Emperor of USA it will and should spread, because macron is leading them toward the demise of france itself

margaret sanger was racist

but i bet she was a suffragette

Yeah she was a suffragette

A feminist idol

Lmfao

y was it wrong, the civil rights act was terrible for the country.

unsuffragettably horrible

Hmmm @Paradox

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gave us shit like affirmative action and the government telling us who we can or can't sell to in our own shops.

Lol

Honestly something I’ve been thinking about is that it feels like we are struggling with our past and future as a culture;increasing and growing progressivism and a growing reactionary sentiment that are battling each other. And I worry we’re going to collapse to one of the extremes; either full communism or full fascism

Affirmative action in itself wasnt the bad part

the irony, is the state was doing that before.

so the fed governemnt did it so the state couldn't, all fucked up

It was the community that took advantage of it.

i disagree regarding AA @SantaSoc

Wym then

Im okay with AA but if so then on an individual basis.

An intelligent child of poor parents, yeah sure, give him a scholarship

Outside of implementing it, what problems did the government cause with it?

but dont tie it to race

Yeah but it was tied

Thats what i was getting at

i see

it also demeans the instituion's value to have people in because race card, why not just expand and accept more students?

@Misomania welll that depends

The White Man getting more goodies than us, we need to flood the market

@Misomania more studentsjust so they can fail? Not desirable i would argue. Thats what happens alot due to AA

once you fill your population via quota rather then merit, you inherently lower the value of all those involved @Redneo you could just expand and have a seperate campus