Message from Dusty Morgan in Subverse #general
Yeah but Iran came to have this new common western name under the Pahlavis that turned it into a secular trade empire
And they are not that any more
Modern Iran is *far* from secular. As theistic of a state as they come.
Ofc; were talking about the last Imperial Iranian dysnatyv
Did you just badmouth the feudal Christians and then link a picture of Charles II?
I myself am not too fond of secularism and prefer a pluralist state over a secular, theistic, or atheistic one.
This is some awesome stuff
It is now hate speech to criticize the government
Ironically the “oppressive” Pahalavis were one of the most secular states in the Middle East
Lol its 1984ism
You know... I saw that coming Zuihou.
A state is better off maintaining a religious stance while allowing the existence of any and all other religions that share the same fundamental values.
If they can criminalize hate speech, what is stopping them from making the government a protected class.
If I remember correctly the Mohammad Reza Shah even gave the population dividends of the oil industry
The line between secular and pluralist is fine, and I would argue the United States is a judeo-christian pluralist state, not a secular one.
My elite privlidge
Though he was still an oppressive dictator that was heavily influenced by American oil companies
what does judaism have to do with the US?
Any ideology can become dictatorial or tyrannical if those that follow it make the mental leaps.
imo, the US is a christian nation
I would say that it is overall, but it is compatible with judaic ethics
The laws for both come from the same source
jews dont really fit in with the free speech part
Actually United States were founded on secular ideals, but the founding fathers were Christians with a few that are Atheist.
Many jews believe in free speech
They agreed that religion when mixed with government is bad.
oh yeah? what about criticizing israel?
Separation of church and state.
Anarchy seems to end up being gang like in theory and practice; where they essentially kill everyone that doesn’t want anarchy
*“We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”*
Criticizing Israel is legal
And it devolves into Stalinism
Anarchy can end up with one group dominating the rest.
That statement to me doesn't sound like one coming from a secular state
yeah but jews also think its anti semitic
If you basically do anything to compromise anarchy, you will be punished.
Thinking it is anti-semitic doesn't mean it shouldnt be allowed