Message from ryuplaneswalker in Subverse #general

2018-12-04 02:40:48 UTC  


2018-12-04 02:40:50 UTC  

the Turkish and the Iraqi ones are waaay different

2018-12-04 02:41:00 UTC  

they don't even speak the same language IIRC

2018-12-04 02:41:22 UTC  

Your probably right that another war in the Middle East would just be a waste of money at this point; but I think the Middle East would have been a much different place if we hit the heart of Sunni terrorism, rather than attacking one of the only secular states in the Middle East

2018-12-04 02:41:41 UTC  

Turkish language is unique

2018-12-04 02:41:44 UTC  

Make Iran Zoroastrian Again tbh

2018-12-04 02:41:55 UTC  

It is the only one in its language branch

2018-12-04 02:42:02 UTC  

Make Iran Manichaean, basically reformed Zoroastrianism

2018-12-04 02:42:08 UTC  


2018-12-04 02:42:20 UTC  


2018-12-04 02:42:43 UTC  

They even got their own Jesus, the Prophet Mani

2018-12-04 02:42:56 UTC  
2018-12-04 02:43:03 UTC  

I understand that incest isn’t *actually* a tenant of Zoroastrianism, but I played too much CK2

2018-12-04 02:43:05 UTC  

Make iran Persia again

2018-12-04 02:43:10 UTC  


2018-12-04 02:43:33 UTC  

Was about to ask

2018-12-04 02:43:51 UTC  

Besides, it isn't like the feudal Christians were that much better

2018-12-04 02:44:13 UTC  

But Persia was always Iran @Uksio; Persia is just what the Greeks called Persia

2018-12-04 02:44:17 UTC  

And that spread to the Wes t

2018-12-04 02:44:33 UTC  


2018-12-04 02:45:54 UTC  

@xorgy Rip Tumblr

2018-12-04 02:45:56 UTC  

To be fair, the Hapsburgs were an exception to the general rule of medieval marriage, and even back then cousin marriage was a sin: it’s just corrupt church officials allowed it

2018-12-04 02:46:00 UTC  

With enough bribes

2018-12-04 02:46:00 UTC  

@Emperor of USA Duuh, no shit Sherlock. But what i mean by that is the period of their prosperity when they were effectively secular trade empire, and not a religious zealot state

2018-12-04 02:46:40 UTC  

Yeah but Iran came to have this new common western name under the Pahlavis that turned it into a secular trade empire

2018-12-04 02:47:04 UTC  

And they are not that any more

2018-12-04 02:47:15 UTC  

Modern Iran is *far* from secular. As theistic of a state as they come.

2018-12-04 02:47:49 UTC  

Ofc; were talking about the last Imperial Iranian dysnatyv

2018-12-04 02:47:49 UTC  

Did you just badmouth the feudal Christians and then link a picture of Charles II?

2018-12-04 02:48:14 UTC  

I myself am not too fond of secularism and prefer a pluralist state over a secular, theistic, or atheistic one.

2018-12-04 02:48:20 UTC  

This is some awesome stuff

2018-12-04 02:48:42 UTC  

It is now hate speech to criticize the government

2018-12-04 02:49:02 UTC  

Ironically the “oppressive” Pahalavis were one of the most secular states in the Middle East

2018-12-04 02:49:09 UTC  

Lol its 1984ism

2018-12-04 02:49:09 UTC  

You know... I saw that coming Zuihou.

2018-12-04 02:49:47 UTC  

A state is better off maintaining a religious stance while allowing the existence of any and all other religions that share the same fundamental values.

2018-12-04 02:49:57 UTC  

If they can criminalize hate speech, what is stopping them from making the government a protected class.

2018-12-04 02:50:00 UTC  

If I remember correctly the Mohammad Reza Shah even gave the population dividends of the oil industry

2018-12-04 02:50:14 UTC  

The line between secular and pluralist is fine, and I would argue the United States is a judeo-christian pluralist state, not a secular one.

2018-12-04 02:50:22 UTC  

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