Message from @Atkins

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2018-12-11 13:20:52 UTC  

Libya too probably

2018-12-11 13:20:57 UTC  

Thats about it

2018-12-11 13:20:59 UTC  

Tho

2018-12-11 13:21:15 UTC  

Europeans build cities, presumably with some industry that needs employees. People with qualifications are hired from the local population. City thrives.

2018-12-11 13:21:49 UTC  

People without qualifications see a thriving city, start moving there without offers of employment or the means to support themselves.

2018-12-11 13:21:59 UTC  

Desperate unemployable people start turning to crime.

2018-12-11 13:22:04 UTC  

Race has nothing to do with it.

2018-12-11 13:22:20 UTC  

Alright then its just dumb

2018-12-11 13:22:24 UTC  

Please don't start screaming racist when my statement did not mention race and had nothing to do with race.

2018-12-11 13:22:25 UTC  

And not racist

2018-12-11 13:22:36 UTC  

Still not realy how it works tho

2018-12-11 13:22:54 UTC  

If you want to have a stable labor market (and therefore a stable society) you need to control immigration.

2018-12-11 13:23:03 UTC  

That's not stupid. That's reality.

2018-12-11 13:23:23 UTC  

Your statement is avout migration inaide that country tho isnt it ?

2018-12-11 13:23:39 UTC  

It's not racist to point out Africans aren't very good at creating the sort of cities Europeans do, and that is the sort of cities Africans want to live in now since they can just walk into Europe

2018-12-11 13:23:51 UTC  

Like yeah almost every country has migration of ppl towards capital

2018-12-11 13:23:58 UTC  

That's not the correct usage of Racist

2018-12-11 13:23:58 UTC  

If there is a European built and run colonial city, that's effectively a European enclave within a country, distinct from the rest of the country.

2018-12-11 13:24:00 UTC  

But it doesn't create slums

2018-12-11 13:24:08 UTC  

Racist refers to you wanting to destroy another Race

2018-12-11 13:24:22 UTC  

The European city will be much, much better than the rest of Africa (or else what's the point of building it)

2018-12-11 13:24:25 UTC  

they're literally saying we will manage your cities for free

2018-12-11 13:24:35 UTC  

@zutt look at DC crime stats.

2018-12-11 13:24:52 UTC  

Look at crime stats for any city vs. the countryside.

2018-12-11 13:24:55 UTC  

Well i find the whole idea of neocolonial city run by Europeans pretty disturbing tbh

2018-12-11 13:25:22 UTC  

@Atkins nah they're saying that like German companies should manage African cities and Germany will pay for it

2018-12-11 13:25:24 UTC  

Unemployable desperate people concentrating in a dense urban area is a recipe for crime.

2018-12-11 13:25:36 UTC  

It's not a open borders settlement for Germans

2018-12-11 13:25:42 UTC  

Well, that might actually work too.

2018-12-11 13:26:09 UTC  

It'll sort of be like retired janissaries in the Ottoman Turk empire

2018-12-11 13:26:19 UTC  

@zutt it's being described in those terms, but i fail to understand the objection :/

2018-12-11 13:26:35 UTC  

Foreign born people with no blood or tribal connections acting as administrative staff.

2018-12-11 13:26:58 UTC  

It worked really well for the Ottomans until they started allowing the janissaries to marry and own land.

2018-12-11 13:27:10 UTC  

if people in Africa want to live in better cities, here is a way for them to, instead of struggling their way up Libya to Europe where they'll be targeted by Evil European WHYTE Racists

2018-12-11 13:27:20 UTC  

So the foreign administrators must be barred from marrying locals and owning land or investing.

2018-12-11 13:27:32 UTC  

Nothing that could give them conflict of interest.

2018-12-11 13:27:34 UTC  

Hah colonialism will safe Africa says the EU

2018-12-11 13:27:42 UTC  

Dude it might actually.

2018-12-11 13:27:48 UTC  

“Let is come and build cities.”

2018-12-11 13:27:49 UTC  

Read Fukuyama.

2018-12-11 13:28:18 UTC  

lol colonial times was literally when most of the infrastructure in Africa was built, and now it's China