Message from @Abel

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2019-01-05 14:59:56 UTC  

unless there is a firm philosophical underpinning of why one shouldn't lead to the other, which is obvious or well explained to everyone.

2019-01-05 15:00:21 UTC  

Bernie calls it socialism though, which (if anything goes okay) will be used as advertisement for actual state socialism.

2019-01-05 15:00:36 UTC  

I need to take a dump here.

2019-01-05 15:00:39 UTC  

Bernie says he's a socialist, he probably is

2019-01-05 15:00:43 UTC  

Sorry, this is the best place to put it. Trust me.

2019-01-05 15:01:01 UTC  

which means that when a when the DemSoc come in, Bernie says we're already Soc even though we're only SocDem

2019-01-05 15:01:03 UTC  

and everything goes to shit

2019-01-05 15:01:10 UTC  

But he wants the Nordic system

2019-01-05 15:01:14 UTC  

I wouldn't be against a mixed economy model, but the socialist crowd is mostly ideologues with no real grasp on political policy

2019-01-05 15:01:16 UTC  

what nordic system?

2019-01-05 15:01:25 UTC  

taxes on the middle class ?

2019-01-05 15:01:28 UTC  

Denmark/Sweden

2019-01-05 15:01:29 UTC  

that's really the difference

2019-01-05 15:01:30 UTC  

Yes

2019-01-05 15:01:42 UTC  

Stan is my spirit animal. XD

2019-01-05 15:01:49 UTC  

Just to be clear, I don't support it

2019-01-05 15:01:57 UTC  

I'm saying Bernie does

2019-01-05 15:02:01 UTC  

If he would just say that Nordic social democracies rely on takes on the middle and lower middle class

2019-01-05 15:02:32 UTC  

But that's an inconvenient fact, xorgy

2019-01-05 15:02:34 UTC  

It's a dangerous mind set to be in tbh. Acting like you can solve all the country's problems by taxing the fuck out of everyone

2019-01-05 15:02:36 UTC  

but of course, his compatriots (whom he does not contradict) put it forward as though the U.S. doesn't currently have a progressive tax system

2019-01-05 15:02:51 UTC  

Not even the Danish politicians will admit that

2019-01-05 15:02:54 UTC  

when in fact the U.S. income tax system is _the most progressive in the developed world_

2019-01-05 15:02:59 UTC  

Or the Swedish

2019-01-05 15:03:08 UTC  

We definitely need less progressive anything

2019-01-05 15:03:13 UTC  

shit's cancer

2019-01-05 15:03:27 UTC  

I think the US could really use single payer healthcare system

2019-01-05 15:03:34 UTC  

Democrats are not going to win this.

2019-01-05 15:03:43 UTC  

no kidding

2019-01-05 15:03:57 UTC  

They're trying to pin it on Trump again

2019-01-05 15:04:02 UTC  

Dems are just acting like children

2019-01-05 15:04:05 UTC  

Or something like the Indian healthcare system where there's free public hospitals, along with Private ones

2019-01-05 15:04:42 UTC  

Wait is the govenrment still shutdown

2019-01-05 15:04:48 UTC  

What's happening?

2019-01-05 15:04:48 UTC  

The only way a socialist model could work is with insanely limited immigration.

2019-01-05 15:04:59 UTC  

Yes

2019-01-05 15:05:00 UTC  

Build the wall

2019-01-05 15:05:09 UTC  

However you decide to skin that cat