Message from @xorgy
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Ok guys hear me out
They don't want that, they want to get rid of him so they can get the voters in one direction.
Rand Paul as president
Bernie as Vice President
Their candidate that they want to run.
A libertarian and a socdem
No Socialism period.
Sorry.
Socdem isn't socialism
Why do people not understand the difference
Bernie Sanders was just MeToo'd.
There's a very big difference between high taxes, free market with social programs, and government seizing all property and redistributing it
@Abel it seems they feel that one leads to the other, and in a sense it can.
Bernie recently has made it explicitly clear what he wants, the Nordic system/Canadian Mixed economy
unless there is a firm philosophical underpinning of why one shouldn't lead to the other, which is obvious or well explained to everyone.
Bernie calls it socialism though, which (if anything goes okay) will be used as advertisement for actual state socialism.
I need to take a dump here.
Bernie says he's a socialist, he probably is
Sorry, this is the best place to put it. Trust me.
which means that when a when the DemSoc come in, Bernie says we're already Soc even though we're only SocDem
and everything goes to shit
But he wants the Nordic system
I wouldn't be against a mixed economy model, but the socialist crowd is mostly ideologues with no real grasp on political policy
what nordic system?
taxes on the middle class ?
Denmark/Sweden
that's really the difference
Yes
Stan is my spirit animal. XD
Just to be clear, I don't support it
I'm saying Bernie does
If he would just say that Nordic social democracies rely on takes on the middle and lower middle class
But that's an inconvenient fact, xorgy
It's a dangerous mind set to be in tbh. Acting like you can solve all the country's problems by taxing the fuck out of everyone
but of course, his compatriots (whom he does not contradict) put it forward as though the U.S. doesn't currently have a progressive tax system
Not even the Danish politicians will admit that
when in fact the U.S. income tax system is _the most progressive in the developed world_
Or the Swedish
We definitely need less progressive anything