but the harder stuff definitely needs to be enforced

a lot of problems with crime stem from drugs, and a lot of drugs stem from pre existing social problems

it's kind of like that `gee officer krupke` song

Depends on the drug though

a load of public/health services that are borderline useless, so everyone rags on law enforcement for not solving the cause, by dealing with the symptoms

Aside from laziness, weed doesn't really have much of a negative effect on people

over a long time it does

higher risk of psychosis

About as much as any other over the counter medicine

and violent behaviour

Lol violent behavior?

You had me with psychosis, I could see that happening if you smoked every day for like a year

violently munching down a thing of nachos...

yes, as a result of the changes in the brain as a result of prolonged use

I'd have to see evidence fo that

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Stoners are stupid and lazy, but not violent lol

in the short term

but overall in the longterm

http://sciencenordic.com/association-between-cannabis-use-and-violence

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-new-brain/201603/marijuana-use-increases-violent-behavior

alcohol is worse in many ways

I think they are quite violent, if they don't have parents or government paying for their lifestyle

alcohol is the powerhouse of most domestic violence

Correlation over 50 years lol

but no one goes around saying that alcohol is harmless, like people go around saying weed is

come on man lol

I'll check the first to see if it has anyhting

i'm not sure about you, but if people become more violent over time, i don't see that as a good thing

generally people become naturally less violent over time

Definitely, but you can't use a 50 year correlation study to show that it points to weed

the study was over 50 years

not 50 years ago

"However, 20% of the boys who started using pot by age 18 continued to use it through middle age (32-48 years). One fifth of those who were pot smokers (22%) reported violent behavior that began after beginning to use cannabis, whereas only 0.3% reported violence before using weed. "

18 to 48

30 years w/e

if you ingest anything for that long it's going to have a negative effect lol

yes, but that doesn't make it desirable

i'm for decriminalising possession, not a user of any of that stuff

but even i can see that it's problem that it leads to

legalising will make it easier to deal with the anti social and criminal fallout more efficiently