@Emperor of USA I love this video

@Rouqen animal rights is a broad stroke to say you're against by example of worshipping a cow

@Rouqen I love my cat for example and don't think it is right to torture or not care for it under my control

@Rouqen You're against equating animals to humans entirely

If we found an alien species, would we be able to tell if it is sentient or not?

Obviously. But I am not going to make all chickens free range

Because that difference is the difference between domestication and slavery

Like CA people want to

@Rouqen what is wrong with free range livestock?

We still eat them

It's not wrong

They just get to roam before the end

Kek

Who cares?

Remind me

They want to

Isn't that better than being cramped in a factory and having their beaks melted off?

And?

Yea

Free range meat is better

It says a lot about someone who treats their lessers poorly

But this shouldn't be a universal animal right

No

I Agree

We're talking about animals we raise to be food

In star trek - yes, original series allready - meat was outright illegal. Though they sometimes made exceptions for alien ambessaries

Pets are an exception because emotions matter

Free range animals seem to be healthier and thus better for human consumption @Rouqen

So it makes sense in a humanistic perspective

Except for money

And land they destroy

If we are to enter a contract and raise animals only to be eaten, we should at least give them a taste of freedom as long as possible before we slaughter them

They eat all the land

If caged animal is as good as a free range one cage the fool

Tbh it’d be kind of nice when they develop that “cruelty free” meat where it’s grown in a vat

Keeping hamsters yourself for meat is the best if you want meat i think

Yes

It will be cheaper @Emperor of USA

And we can reduce the amount animals we raise

based on what ive read but been some time

And less animals to feed